Indeed, people expecting us to get past every thing in the first year in CHL, After many years.
Just look at Dortmund last and this year.
Just look at Dortmund last and this year.
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I remember it was to counteract Napoli when we got that 3-3 draw with some Pepe magic.
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I don't think people are expecting us to win CL or anything of the sort, rather, it's the poor performances over both legs that most are finding unacceptable, and many believe Conte could have avoided such epic failures, even if it still didn't mean we got past Bayern, with some sound tactical choices.
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I don't think people are expecting us to win CL or anything of the sort, rather, it's the poor performances over both legs that most are finding unacceptable, and many believe Conte could have avoided such epic failures, even if it still didn't mean we got past Bayern, with some sound tactical choices.
Just as I said on the match thread, we should look at those guys. They were last place on their group last year, and now they're on semifinals. We should aspire to the same, or maybe more. Experience is needed. And also a bit of luck. And a lot more of creativity. Someone who can change matches, someone who gives you a goal when you more need it.
We also need more confidense and hunger. Conte needs to study more and consider switch to 4-3-3 as much as I like 3-5-2.
We also need more confidense and hunger. Conte needs to study more and consider switch to 4-3-3 as much as I like 3-5-2.
No, but I expect a good fight.
I know couple of years right after Calciopoli and under Ranieri with few individual class players only Juve dominated Madrid twice.
And I saw Malaga put a great fight and almost eliminate Dortmund and reach the semi's for the first time in their history.
A good fight wasn't there in both legs. There was no fight at all.
I know couple of years right after Calciopoli and under Ranieri with few individual class players only Juve dominated Madrid twice.
And I saw Malaga put a great fight and almost eliminate Dortmund and reach the semi's for the first time in their history.
A good fight wasn't there in both legs. There was no fight at all.
we lack speed if we want to hit a team, lets say bayern, on the counter
we lack class if we want to hit them when they are defending..
if we want to be the countering italian team again, we need players who are extremely fast in countering (like how real madrid can get from their own goal to the other in 4 seconds)
if we want to outclass our opponents in the CL we need class... 5 more vidal kind of transfers would do (low cost allmost WC kind of players)
we lack class if we want to hit them when they are defending..
if we want to be the countering italian team again, we need players who are extremely fast in countering (like how real madrid can get from their own goal to the other in 4 seconds)
if we want to outclass our opponents in the CL we need class... 5 more vidal kind of transfers would do (low cost allmost WC kind of players)
Not suddenly, after every negative result.
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Giovinco is horrible in a central position, each time he played there he just got muscled off the ball.
You could try someone out of position at RWF for sure, at home to a small team, but it's no long-term strategy and isn't going to be deployed against a team like Bayern, so it's almost not worth bothering with.
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Giovinco is horrible in a central position, each time he played there he just got muscled off the ball.
You could try someone out of position at RWF for sure, at home to a small team, but it's no long-term strategy and isn't going to be deployed against a team like Bayern, so it's almost not worth bothering with.
Regarding creative players, I agree. Or at least players that will provide more of an unpredictable side in attack. It seems like a few others agree with that too, which I'm glad to see, because Bayern demonstrated quite effectively what a top attacking set up looks like. For example, the attacking play where Robben laid the ball off for Ribéry to send in a dangerous cross after just 8 minutes was quite simple and opened up a great chance, Juve's width didn't really create anything in comparison? The best cross for Juve was from Pogba.
I think last season we saw a better attacking Juve, mostly because of Pepe providing an extra dimension, which led us to believe that a goalscorer was needed much more than anything else (which is still quite true). I've really started seeing thatthe team needs more attacking types of players this year. There isn't really an inventive player outside of Pirlo (and Mirko at times), all the attacking moves seem so rigid like they're practicing them over and over as a training exercise, collecting the ball back to goal and trying to flick it on to someone else to the side. Credit to Mirko for fighting against that pattern and moving the ball in different ways. Just the previous night I saw Isco, Götze and Reus all battling it out and I think they're exactly the type of player Juve is lacking.
Regarding the wingbacks, Lichtsteiner obviously adds a lot more than Isla/Padoin at this point, there's not really an issue with him. Asamoah and Peluso both struggled to do anything offensively. Maybe it's time to look for an alternative to this problem in the ability to switch formation more easily? Even when Pepe is injured.
So far I think this is the only new thread that has popped up, and it was intended to discuss what would take Juve to the next step in it's development after seeing it against a top tier club in world football for the first time.
I think last season we saw a better attacking Juve, mostly because of Pepe providing an extra dimension, which led us to believe that a goalscorer was needed much more than anything else (which is still quite true). I've really started seeing thatthe team needs more attacking types of players this year. There isn't really an inventive player outside of Pirlo (and Mirko at times), all the attacking moves seem so rigid like they're practicing them over and over as a training exercise, collecting the ball back to goal and trying to flick it on to someone else to the side. Credit to Mirko for fighting against that pattern and moving the ball in different ways. Just the previous night I saw Isco, Götze and Reus all battling it out and I think they're exactly the type of player Juve is lacking.
Regarding the wingbacks, Lichtsteiner obviously adds a lot more than Isla/Padoin at this point, there's not really an issue with him. Asamoah and Peluso both struggled to do anything offensively. Maybe it's time to look for an alternative to this problem in the ability to switch formation more easily? Even when Pepe is injured.
So far I think this is the only new thread that has popped up, and it was intended to discuss what would take Juve to the next step in it's development after seeing it against a top tier club in world football for the first time.
