Antonio Conte (58 Viewers)

[pitbull]

UEFA Youth League has been going on since 2012 time in which Chelsea's Academy has won the trophy twice (2015, 2016) and played another Final (2013). Now of course the young lads are not there to defend their trophy since the seniors are not playing Champions League football this season. In England they've won everything that was to be won domestically, league titles, FA Youth cups, you name it. The club has got a state of the art facility going on and this is the best Academy in the country. Every England youth team is filled with Chelsea lads starting from the U-16s to the U-21s. They say that City's Academy is coming in full force but Chelsea have met them this year in April for the FA Youth Cup Final and frankly it was men v boys rather than a Cup final between the two best Academies in the country. Chelsea beat them 4-2 on aggregate but frankly had Chelsea put 10 behind them no one could have said a thing.

It's not about overrating anything it's about having the right manager to pick them young lads and introduce them to the first team. Talent is there for everybody to see it thing is we've never had a manager to give these guys a proper chance. Felt the bitterness in your words but you got it wrong this time. I was not banging on how good of a youth setup we have and how great we are, I was just expressing my enthusiasm of finally having a manager ready to give players a chance regardless of their name and age.

If you were a Watford size club and had this great academy I agree, you should get a manager that's great polishing youth. But considering you want to compete for the league title every season and challenge for CL when you have the chance I doubt you'll see much of those youngsters under any manager. Few of the youngsters will make it and maybe one will end up to be a regular starter and that will be more because of that one guys individual talent and effort and not because of the greatness of the academy. 90ties United don't happen very often, I'm sure you know that.

 

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[Hist]

If you were a Watford size club and had this great academy I agree, you should get a manager that's great polishing youth. But considering you want to compete for the league title every season and challenge for CL when you have the chance I doubt you'll see much of those youngsters under any manager. Few of the youngsters will make it and maybe one will end up to be a regular starter and that will be more because of that one guys individual talent and effort and not because of the greatness of the academy. 90ties United don't happen very often, I'm sure you know that.

Especially when their 1st 11 is in crisis and needs top quality reinforcements NOW. Juve today have the luxury to slowly introduce Rugani because our defense is already rock solid and there is no shortage of top defenders in our roster and on our bench. We can achieve our targets with or without Rugani and so there is no harm in giving him some game time and slowly integrating him in the squad we will reach our targets anyway.

Its an entirely different story if all our defenders were old and unreliable with no bench in sight and we needed Rugani to perform at the highest level now to meet our season targets. A team that wants to compete for top honors regularly cannot rely on kids (unless they are broke) turning out great. They need guaranteed quality now + 1 or 2 kids for the future.

Juve has good young talents in lemina & sturururu and we struggle because we have to rely on them performing at the highest level now. Its a different story if Pogba was still here.

 

[il brutto]

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Benfica left back.

 

[Conte in London]

Agree with you lads. Nobody expects Antonio Conte to be bringing all the loanies back at introduce them into the first team immediately. But assuming we finish top 4 this season, we will be playing four competitions next season with a hectic schedule and away games throughout all Europe. Big squad is needed, some will get a lot of playing time, some will stay on the bench and some will see time in the stands. The likes of Oscar and Cesc Fabregas are not going to accept the bench role forever and they will be eventually sold (this coming winter, or next summer, remains to be seen, clearly they are not in Conte's plan anymore). Then there is Willian who's lost in place in favour of Pedro Rodriguez and I have my doubts whether he'll be back in the first team anytime soon, so there's a possibility he will be asking for a transfer, too, next summer. And frankly it's for the best - he is a workhorse merchant at best, has no end product and slows the game down. John Terry, Ivanovic and Obi Mikel are running out of contracts at the end of the season and they will not be given an extension.

So come next summer there is a lot of empty spots in the squad that need to be filled up. Plus the eventual new arrivals ready to slot into the first team immediately because history has shown us every season that the first team must be improved regardless of the place you end up during the previous season. We've made this mistake once, with Mourinho, when he failed to improve the squad after the title winning season and went into the new season with the same line-up. His big ego and constant favoritism stayed in the way and chose not to improve the squad because "how can you drop a player after a title winning season?". Well it showed that you can and this was his undoing in the end. Chelsea is not going to make the same mistake twice.

From our calculations, Conte will have at least 200m+ (maybe even 250m) to spend next summer (money provided from the club, the eventual departures, Nike deal starts next summer plus the new TV deal kicking off). This w/o taking in consideration the money he'll be spending this winter. Obviously you can't fill all the empty spots in the squad with new arrivals only. There is a lot of matches to be played and I have no doubts that youngsters will see more playing time in the League Cup, the FA Cup and probably at home against the likes of Burnley, Sunderland or WBA. Especially if these come before or after difficult Champions League matches. This is what I was talking about. Nobody asks for a Chelsea team full of Academy products, but if Conte can introduce at least three or four youngsters to the squad and give them playing time then we're all happy.

 

[JuveJay]

Chelsea are a rich team and almost all of those players won't find space. Conte is fine dining now and only cares about winning every game and accolades, not about blooding youth players. If he has a chance to go for a PL record or giving some kid a game at the end of the season he'll go for the record. Honestly, the club can talk about it all it wants but Chelsea has proven to be one of the absolute worst places for young players to come through, and Conte will only play them if they can immediately contribute to the first team.

Side funny note - Chelsea's 'U23' team comprising of Terry, Batshuayi, Fabregas, Zouma and Van Ginkel

BTW I'd take Willian in a split second.

 

[Osman]

Yeah Willian I would take with zero hesitation, long lost Cuadrado bro with more creativity and freekick specialist.

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[Conte in London]

Willian - let me tell you this. One of the most frustrating players I've watched since being a Chelsea fan. And believe me I've seen a lot of players come and go at this football club.
You probably know about Mourinho's borderline obsession with players having to track back all the time. Well Willian was his darling. Along with Oscar. This two supposed attacking midfielders are better at breaking down the play and putting a shift in defence rather than creating something in the attacking areas. Willian, for all his talent, is shocking in the final third - no creativity, no end product, slows the game down and I swear to you it takes him 30 seconds before trying to figure out what to do. Pass, dribble, cross. This two, Willian and Oscar, are two of the biggest enigmas in world football, the most "un-Brazilian" Brazilian players I've ever seen in my life. They are now on the bench and long it may continue. No one misses them. There is no wonder that team has started to click once Oscar, Willian, Ivanovic, Fabregas, Terry were dropped.

Willian is no way a free kick specialist. He's exactly like Liverpool's Coutinho. You can't consider Coutinho a long distance goalscorer either - he scores a long ranger in every 30 attempts. That's Willian as well - scores the ott freekick after misplacing the previous 20. Also his corner kick ability is terrible. Ask every Chelsea fan about this and they are all going to talk to you about how the ball always hits the first man.

Daylight robbery if we can get at least 70m for these two (Oscar and Willian).

 

[Cerval]

Conte: "Juventus must aim for CL".

Antonio Conte warns Juventus “must look beyond Serie A” this season - “when you have that squad you must have big objectives”.

The Chelsea manager is a former Bianconeri Coach, winning three Scudetti in a row including an unbeaten season in 2011-12.

Max Allegri’s side already has a seven point gap on the chasing pack, but his predecessor believes European success must be the objective.

“When you have the eighth-highest wage bill in the world you have to look beyond Serie A,” Conte opined, speaking to Gazzetta dello Sport.

“Juventus have made important investments which are up there with the top international clubs. When you have a squad like that of the current Juve, you must have big objectives.

“Has Serie A already been wrapped-up? Nothing is obvious in football, but if the competition sells you [Gonzalo] Higuain and [Miralem] Pjanic then everything becomes easier.”

Conte was Italy CT before taking over at Chelsea, and was asked about his biggest regret with the national team.

“The penalties with Germany. We had match point. If we’d beaten Germany then I’m convinced we’d have gone all the way.

“The national team was an exceptional group, the team was a single block, strong mentally and physically. We got past Spain very well and forced Germany to play against their nature.

“Will I return to Italian football? Definitely. But now my mind and - I hope - my immediate future are with Chelsea.

“I want to enjoy and understand this new reality.”

 

[Hist]

Conte: "Juventus must aim for CL".

Antonio Conte warns Juventus “must look beyond Serie A” this season - “when you have that squad you must have big objectives”.

The Chelsea manager is a former Bianconeri Coach, winning three Scudetti in a row including an unbeaten season in 2011-12.

Max Allegri’s side already has a seven point gap on the chasing pack, but his predecessor believes European success must be the objective.

“When you have the eighth-highest wage bill in the world you have to look beyond Serie A,” Conte opined, speaking to Gazzetta dello Sport.

“Juventus have made important investments which are up there with the top international clubs. When you have a squad like that of the current Juve, you must have big objectives.

“Has Serie A already been wrapped-up? Nothing is obvious in football, but if the competition sells you [Gonzalo] Higuain and [Miralem] Pjanic then everything becomes easier.”

Conte was Italy CT before taking over at Chelsea, and was asked about his biggest regret with the national team.

“The penalties with Germany. We had match point. If we’d beaten Germany then I’m convinced we’d have gone all the way.

“The national team was an exceptional group, the team was a single block, strong mentally and physically. We got past Spain very well and forced Germany to play against their nature.

“Will I return to Italian football? Definitely. But now my mind and - I hope - my immediate future are with Chelsea.

“I want to enjoy and understand this new reality.”

Lets have him back in 2 years after he is done building Chelsea, and when its time to create a new back bone to juve

 

[Hængebøffer]

Of all people, Conte should shut the fuck up here.

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Lets have him back in 2 years after he is done building Chelsea, and when its time to create a new back bone to juve

Lol

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

We'd have lost last nights game under Conte.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Conte: "Juventus must aim for CL".

What a troll.

 

[Fr3sh]

I honestly hope he looses the league by a single point to Liverpool after leading the table for at least a month by 10+ points. Kinda like how Allegri's Milan was leading the table and they gave us the title.

 

[Conte in London]

Letting aside the fact that he's won me over in a short amount of time and I might be biased when it comes to him from now on, but frankly he's got a point here. The Italian league has become a one horse race, your club is on a completely different level from the football being played there. I think you lot you'd win the league with ease even if you'd play your youth in most of the rounds. There is simply no other team to put you any problems - the Milan clubs are a joke, Lazio and Fiorentina are never going to win the league as long as your club is still there, Rome I think they are a joke, too and then there is Napoli a decent club, but can they really keep up the pace? No way if you ask me. Look at last season, you lot have had an abysmal start and Napoli were cruising with Higuain at helm and had God knows how many points ahead of you. But then you went on that tremendous winning streak and topped them in the end. The fact that you lot made it to the 1st place for the first time that season only by February I think it speaks volumes. No matter how good others are, you will always find a way to win this league because you are too good for it. It's as simple as that.

You should aim for Champions League right away although as a neutral I think that you cannot win it this year because of your midfield. You have a world class defence and two wonderful players up front in Higuain and Dybala. But that midfield... meh. You miss an enforcer like Vidal and Pirlo's genius. The current set of midfielders you lot have simply does not struck me as a Champions League winning one. But if you work on that next summer there is no reason why you can't challenge for the big title.

You should aim higher because you've come to a level where you must demand more from this club. Look at Tottenham for example - their inbred fans brag about how big their club is, but everytime they choke they have nothing to say about it and try to act as if it's something normal. That's mediocrity for me. Spurs are the only club that can finish third in a two horse race. Last season they fought Leicester for the league title, the Foxes won it in the end but guess what - Spurs fans were happy for finishing third and going back to Champions League football in one of the worst PL seasons of all time. No, it's not good, you fight fecking Leicester City for the league title and then you settle for less? A Champions League spot? Feck that. You did not fight Chelsea, City, United for the league title, you fought Leicester fecking City.

Now they are out already from Champions League group stages, but they are cool about it. At least they got to play there. Inbred morons. Small club mentality.

I think this is what Conte's trying to say. Maybe it's a dig at your club as well, won't deny it, but you can't say that he's not telling the truth. Your club is way too big now to hide behind an Italian league title.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

The trouble with Conte is that other teams are better and should always aim higher, while his own team is always the underdog (in his mind).

Conte while he was with us: Winning CL with Juventus? Impossible because other teams are better.
Conte while he's not with us: Juventus really should aim to win it.

What has changed? There are still teams that are better than us. While our own team right now, compared to his last season, is clearly inferior.


That's Antonio in a nutshell: when you win, you achieved something amazing, almost impossible. And when you loose, it's not because you failed, but it's because the other team is better, more experienced, richer, prettier, whatever.

 

[Klovn]

^

Still love him though, and hope he returns in the future

 

[GordoDeCentral]

The trouble with Conte is that other teams are better and should always aim higher, while his own team is always the underdog (in his mind).

Conte while he was with us: Winning CL with Juventus? Impossible because other teams are better.
Conte while he's not with us: Juventus really should aim to win it.

What has changed? There are still teams that are better than us. While our own team right now, compared to his last season, is clearly inferior.


That's Antonio in a nutshell: when you win, you achieved something amazing, almost impossible. And when you loose, it's not because you failed, but it's because the other team is better, more experienced, richer, prettier, whatever.

When he said those comments he lost to one of the best bayern teams in history while fielding the likes of quag matri isla, padoin started one of the games ffs

 

[Conte in London]

Spot on "X". You can't say anything about the leg against Bayern. One of world's best clubs managed by definitely the best manager in business. I agree the following season and the early exit can be atttributed to him SOMEHOW. I have watched most of the matches in that group and frankly is Conte to blame entirely for that? Juventus have missed tons of chances against Galatasaray and the Danish club. Had they converted at least 30% of that chances you'd have been through by a big difference of points to be fair. They say a manager's job is to get his team at 20m close to the opposite goal, the rest is on player's talent and decision in the final third.

Another thing I do not agree with some of your fans is the hatred towards Conte regarding the next Champions League campaign in which you've managed to get to the Final. Yes, always great to have your team playing with the trophy on the table, but is it really a historic achievement only to be in the Final. Not for me as long I am concerned. Winners are always remembered, losers not that much. For example right at this moment we all know Arsenal have finished behind Leicester last season, but will it be the same in five years time? I don't think so. By then we'll all going to remember only who's finished 1st, and that is Leicester. Losers are always going to be forgotten as the time goes by.

The perfect example of a great mentality I think it is Diego Simeone. We all know he's revolutionized Atletico Madrid as a whole, has given a new dimension to the club. You would think that what he's achieved is marvelous. But not for him because he always wants more and more. Spanish media has found that Diego Simeone has confessed to his family and his close friends that for him, the fact that he's lost two Champions League finals, is a total failure and he'll always be remembered in the history books as the manager that has failed to win the trophy twice while managing the Madrid club. No one cares that you've managed to go all the way and reach the Final, the last thing you will be remembered for is that you've lost it. Plain and simple. This is why, for me personally, getting knocked out in the quarter finals or reaching the Final and losing it is kind of the same thing.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

When he said those comments he lost to one of the best bayern teams in history while fielding the likes of quag matri isla, padoin started one of the games ffs

Must be my imagination then. For some reason, I seem to recall a shitload of similar comments from Conte.

Just to state the obvious: I'm still grateful for what Conte did and I believe we wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for him. So his approach clearly works. But that doesn't make him any less of a cry baby imo.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Must be my imagination then. For some reason, I seem to recall a shitload of similar comments from Conte.

Just to state the obvious: I'm still grateful for what Conte did and I believe we wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for him. So his approach clearly works. But that doesn't make him any less of a cry baby imo.

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