last time I checked vucinic was injured.
and I was taking aout giovinco on the right and tevez on the left.
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I wish I could tell him.
anyways I was taking about tevez on the left and giovinco on the right.
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last time I checked vucinic was injured.
and I was taking aout giovinco on the right and tevez on the left.
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I wish I could tell him.
anyways I was taking about tevez on the left and giovinco on the right.
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Pepole need to get a grip and get off Conte back, is he a perfect coach? no he isn't, he got a few strong and a few weak points in his coaching.
He is a coach in the mould of SAF, very good at the mental aspact, squad building and getting the most from players while his tactical ability and attention to small tactical details isn't up there with the Pep's and Mou's.
SAF was no tactical wiz and went on to have a briliant career. Not saying Conte will be as decorated as him, but judging a coach that won the title 3 years running is beyond dumb. SAF only won the CL 2 times in his whole career because his coaching style and strong points are perfect for a long run competition like a league and not a knockout cup like the CL.
I'm happy with conte winning the league every year and will be delighted if he can get a CL title or two but it will be depending on how weak the competion will be in CL that year and not on how strong we are, at least for a couple of years from now or unless conte vastly improves his tactical aspect and attention to details.
When we are all tired of winning the league we can talk about replacing him for a proven CL coach, I for one not there yet and anyone who is after only two european campagins is a very impaitent fan to put it mildly
He is a coach in the mould of SAF, very good at the mental aspact, squad building and getting the most from players while his tactical ability and attention to small tactical details isn't up there with the Pep's and Mou's.
SAF was no tactical wiz and went on to have a briliant career. Not saying Conte will be as decorated as him, but judging a coach that won the title 3 years running is beyond dumb. SAF only won the CL 2 times in his whole career because his coaching style and strong points are perfect for a long run competition like a league and not a knockout cup like the CL.
I'm happy with conte winning the league every year and will be delighted if he can get a CL title or two but it will be depending on how weak the competion will be in CL that year and not on how strong we are, at least for a couple of years from now or unless conte vastly improves his tactical aspect and attention to details.
When we are all tired of winning the league we can talk about replacing him for a proven CL coach, I for one not there yet and anyone who is after only two european campagins is a very impaitent fan to put it mildly
Good luck with that.
With the amount of world beaters around the globe...there will be always at the very least 3 or 4 teams who will be able to kick our ass with our current team and mentality.
No one is mad at him for giving us 2 scudettos. NO one. The problem is... that we are in the painful situation of doubting his qualitites as a coach because of a bunch of factor that include: weak performances in europe and even serie A, the fact that we are cruising a league were most teams are happy to sit back and let us play our funny 352 game.... but when ANY team decides to say "fuck it" and press us a little, we crumble like amateurs with no plan 2.
We are in al the right to congratulate him, but at the same time, we are in our right to complain about obvious things that can be sen by anyone.
If you are happy with our performances in the last 10 games and the way we have been ridiculed time after time in the last european matches (we even struggled against Trab in our stadium, how can that be?), Then, seriously dude, gimme a break.
Im really worried about this situation, as i dont see Conte learning from his mistakes. The only remarkable moment of this year was when he decided to switch formation to adapt to real madrid. But thats it. Sine then he continued his 352 crusade whichis taking us nowhere. And again.... dont tell us that we are just having bad days because serie A´s cruising is testament to how good we and conte is.
With the amount of world beaters around the globe...there will be always at the very least 3 or 4 teams who will be able to kick our ass with our current team and mentality.
No one is mad at him for giving us 2 scudettos. NO one. The problem is... that we are in the painful situation of doubting his qualitites as a coach because of a bunch of factor that include: weak performances in europe and even serie A, the fact that we are cruising a league were most teams are happy to sit back and let us play our funny 352 game.... but when ANY team decides to say "fuck it" and press us a little, we crumble like amateurs with no plan 2.
We are in al the right to congratulate him, but at the same time, we are in our right to complain about obvious things that can be sen by anyone.
If you are happy with our performances in the last 10 games and the way we have been ridiculed time after time in the last european matches (we even struggled against Trab in our stadium, how can that be?), Then, seriously dude, gimme a break.
Im really worried about this situation, as i dont see Conte learning from his mistakes. The only remarkable moment of this year was when he decided to switch formation to adapt to real madrid. But thats it. Sine then he continued his 352 crusade whichis taking us nowhere. And again.... dont tell us that we are just having bad days because serie A´s cruising is testament to how good we and conte is.
My point exactly, we would need luck and much of it.
You can't fault anyone at juve that other clubs in europe kept on improving. We are at least 3-4 years behind the elite clubs on sporting term and thats a kind estimate ( even further on economic ones).
We would need to catch a huge break to even reach the final the next few years and thats a sad fact of where things stand.
The fact if Conte has the ability to take us there remains to be seen granted
Not happy at all, but our team hits a bad patch like any other team only its harder to mask it when you dont have enough WC indviduals. Our rough patch has nothing to do with domestic or europen competitions, it only becames more apperant in continantal matchs when the opposition playes with nothing to lose approch that they cant afford to have in a domastic game.
You can't fault anyone at juve that other clubs in europe kept on improving. We are at least 3-4 years behind the elite clubs on sporting term and thats a kind estimate ( even further on economic ones).
We would need to catch a huge break to even reach the final the next few years and thats a sad fact of where things stand.
The fact if Conte has the ability to take us there remains to be seen granted
Not happy at all, but our team hits a bad patch like any other team only its harder to mask it when you dont have enough WC indviduals. Our rough patch has nothing to do with domestic or europen competitions, it only becames more apperant in continantal matchs when the opposition playes with nothing to lose approch that they cant afford to have in a domastic game.
Well then we agree that something must be done!.
And im not saying we NEED to be on par with Bayern, Barca and Real, and consistently play toe to toe against them.. We all know we have limitations and we are miles away to have the economical power and players they have.... but that doesnt mean we cannot improve in the things we have now at tactical and mental level.
We dont need billions of dollars and having Messi, Cronaldo and ribery.. to be able to properly beat teams like Trabsonzpor and Fiorentina, with all respect to those teams, we are better. Period.
Right now, im not talking baout not having players or dollars, but something even more worrisome, that is our lack to adapt to situations and the mentality we are approaching games. Its unnaceptable!. And coming from someone like Conte, who was a warrior as a player and as a coach, its worrisome that before games he talks about being warriors and what else.... but on the field we look as timids as we can be...and his decitions can be questionable too.
Of course, having players like Isla and Giovinco wasting chances left and right doesnt help. But u get my point
And im not saying we NEED to be on par with Bayern, Barca and Real, and consistently play toe to toe against them.. We all know we have limitations and we are miles away to have the economical power and players they have.... but that doesnt mean we cannot improve in the things we have now at tactical and mental level.
We dont need billions of dollars and having Messi, Cronaldo and ribery.. to be able to properly beat teams like Trabsonzpor and Fiorentina, with all respect to those teams, we are better. Period.
Right now, im not talking baout not having players or dollars, but something even more worrisome, that is our lack to adapt to situations and the mentality we are approaching games. Its unnaceptable!. And coming from someone like Conte, who was a warrior as a player and as a coach, its worrisome that before games he talks about being warriors and what else.... but on the field we look as timids as we can be...and his decitions can be questionable too.
Of course, having players like Isla and Giovinco wasting chances left and right doesnt help. But u get my point
I do get where you comming from and agree to some extant.
All Im trying to say is that some of the things that seem worrisome can some times just happen and dont nessecerily point to a lasting problam but when they come tied togther with elements that may be a weakness in Conte's approach it seems more severe then they truely are.
To sum it up, its just to soon for me at least to say what is a mere temporary bump caused by pre-conditions and what is Conte fault.
All Im trying to say is that some of the things that seem worrisome can some times just happen and dont nessecerily point to a lasting problam but when they come tied togther with elements that may be a weakness in Conte's approach it seems more severe then they truely are.
To sum it up, its just to soon for me at least to say what is a mere temporary bump caused by pre-conditions and what is Conte fault.
what great statements from the old master
http://www.football-italia.net/46480/trap-backs-juve-squad-rotation
guess you cant always cure shortsightedness
http://www.football-italia.net/46480/trap-backs-juve-squad-rotation
guess you cant always cure shortsightedness
It's a terrible formation for Europe, lets be honest here. How many times do we have to see other teams stifle Pirlo and shut us down to realize that two wing backs are not going to deliver the offensive threats we need. And also, we gave up 9 goals in the group stage, so so much for that "tactical brilliance" of the 3-5-2. The formation sucks and Italian coaches are massive, gaping pusssie holes.
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Personally, I will give Conte the benefit of the doubt and one more season in Europe. If we don't reach the quarters, he's gone. We can then move on to somebody who isn't Italian.
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Personally, I will give Conte the benefit of the doubt and one more season in Europe. If we don't reach the quarters, he's gone. We can then move on to somebody who isn't Italian.
If with new players, some of them wingers, Conte fails to deliver again... i think it will be clear as water what our objectives will be the next season.
And when i say fail, im not talking baout losing in quarters or semis against worthy opponents...... but losing to the likes of Gala and cophenhagen in snorefests.....
And when i say fail, im not talking baout losing in quarters or semis against worthy opponents...... but losing to the likes of Gala and cophenhagen in snorefests.....
