Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (105 Viewers)
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No one spoke of a 70k sits stadioum. Thtas almost double than we have and there is a lot of middle ground till there.
The ideal number for us would be about 50-55k seats. And again, right from the very first day, i m reffering to the strategic benefits, not the short term ones.
As i have been saying all along, in the long run we will regret having only 40k seats, not in the first couple of years.
If the stadioum had 10k seats more, it wouldnt make quite the diffence on the atmosphere. If we can full a 40k stadium with consistency, then it means that there is a need for at least 5000seats/game at least.
The soft spot imo, is to exceed, as slightly as you can, the maximum ammount you can get, even with 10k vacant seats, you have 4 ppl standing in every 5 seats,
that does not leaves the impression of a half empty stadium, on the contrary...
The stadium we had, due its built had horrible viewing angles, only by rebuilding it and removing the track, much more ppl would be attracted back anyways.
By playing beautifull footbal and becoming competitive again, by making it more accesible to families, more ppl would come.
By participating in high level matches like CL semis, cup semis and title decider matches, more ppl would come.
But now, by default, that ppl CANT come, simply because there is no place for them... and as we grow and have more fans again, the problem will increase along with the interest.
So you know what they will do? They will increase the price for the ticket, first for the good seats, then for the decent ones and inevitably all.
So with less investment they will make more profit, good for them. But when i will visit Italy and try to watch a derby, it will be much harder and more expensive for me to do it.
Eventually more ppl will be discouraged, so the common fan will be called to pay the extra bill. Juve's fanbase was always the worker common man, who cant afford the EPL high bill though...
And in the long long run, when the other teams build bigger modern stadiums, on par with ours, as architecture and facilities, but much more spacious, they will be able to make more tickets for the same ammounts of matches.
And create more profits and brute income, all the while keeping the common fan happy for giving him an affordable ticket and a quality of our current stadium.
What we do then? Rebuild a new one, or fall behind in income race?
This is when we will regret not making it a 50k seater and this is when ppl will understand to what i was reffering to...
When he made that choice AA made it with short vision, considering the current numbers he had at hand, the fog and parking issues, the tracks, the poor spectacle, lack of prestige/competitivity/spectacle etc
but Juventus is bigger than this, in the long run we would grow again a modern 70k seater, without track, new parking, facilities, better viewing angles etc, would be easier to fill in the derbies, than the old Delle Alpi and the average attendance would inevitably rise in the long run, esp after returning to top.
These elements were not in the equation back then, but they are now and will be more in the future, however the mistake is already made and its irreversable!
The ideal number for us would be about 50-55k seats. And again, right from the very first day, i m reffering to the strategic benefits, not the short term ones.
As i have been saying all along, in the long run we will regret having only 40k seats, not in the first couple of years.
If the stadioum had 10k seats more, it wouldnt make quite the diffence on the atmosphere. If we can full a 40k stadium with consistency, then it means that there is a need for at least 5000seats/game at least.
The soft spot imo, is to exceed, as slightly as you can, the maximum ammount you can get, even with 10k vacant seats, you have 4 ppl standing in every 5 seats,
that does not leaves the impression of a half empty stadium, on the contrary...
The stadium we had, due its built had horrible viewing angles, only by rebuilding it and removing the track, much more ppl would be attracted back anyways.
By playing beautifull footbal and becoming competitive again, by making it more accesible to families, more ppl would come.
By participating in high level matches like CL semis, cup semis and title decider matches, more ppl would come.
But now, by default, that ppl CANT come, simply because there is no place for them... and as we grow and have more fans again, the problem will increase along with the interest.
So you know what they will do? They will increase the price for the ticket, first for the good seats, then for the decent ones and inevitably all.
So with less investment they will make more profit, good for them. But when i will visit Italy and try to watch a derby, it will be much harder and more expensive for me to do it.
Eventually more ppl will be discouraged, so the common fan will be called to pay the extra bill. Juve's fanbase was always the worker common man, who cant afford the EPL high bill though...
And in the long long run, when the other teams build bigger modern stadiums, on par with ours, as architecture and facilities, but much more spacious, they will be able to make more tickets for the same ammounts of matches.
And create more profits and brute income, all the while keeping the common fan happy for giving him an affordable ticket and a quality of our current stadium.
What we do then? Rebuild a new one, or fall behind in income race?
This is when we will regret not making it a 50k seater and this is when ppl will understand to what i was reffering to...
When he made that choice AA made it with short vision, considering the current numbers he had at hand, the fog and parking issues, the tracks, the poor spectacle, lack of prestige/competitivity/spectacle etc
but Juventus is bigger than this, in the long run we would grow again a modern 70k seater, without track, new parking, facilities, better viewing angles etc, would be easier to fill in the derbies, than the old Delle Alpi and the average attendance would inevitably rise in the long run, esp after returning to top.
These elements were not in the equation back then, but they are now and will be more in the future, however the mistake is already made and its irreversable!
