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Yeah, they should've done more (mostly getting the police involved early on and collaborating with them), but those specific Ultra groups we're talking about (which have emerged rather recently) do have very strong links to the Mafia, they're not just some random fans.

They're not really doing it voluntarily really if the ultras are threatening them. Though the club probably should've done more. But it's imo still the state's job to protect it's citizens (and entities) from that kind of stuff. Not a 1-1 analogy, but you're not gonna blame the guy paying...

I have no problem with individuals reselling (meaning not as a business model) their tickets, nor with giving tickets to ultras at a lower price to improve atmospheres, but the current situation at Juve and probably many other Italian clubs is fucked up. Read the article I posted for why. - - -...

Because it's based on extortion and supports organized crime? - - - Updated - - - The prime responsibility here imo lies with the Italian state though, not with the club.

If you are aware that said ticket holders use mass ID fraud to get them, and are tied to the Mafia you're probably looking at some sort of organized crime offense. But afaik the irony here is that it would've been difficult for anyone to find Juve legally guilty of anything if Agnelli hadn't...

They're making deals with Mafia affiliated Ultra groups who get the tickets for cheap from the club, then go around and sell them for much more. The club does this because those Ultras can cause problems for the club by starting shit up at Juve games. Here's a pretty good article on the...

I think you might have a point here imo

The quote as a whole sounds much less positive though tbh “Anything is possible with the technology we have today. It wouldn’t be very easy, but it’s doable. It depends what sort of increase people want, it’s one thing to increase it by 20,000 seats, it’s another to increase it by 2,000. If...

Looks like a cousin of the McPoyle twins

Dude the club is already suing their ass for 400 million :D

:lol: :heart:

Meh, not scared of any points deductions, but this could very well mean goodbye for Agnelli

Thanks :tup:

Examples? Actually being curious here

That's what the "Fucking hell" was for :D Played myself

Merge of course The mental picture I've got now is worse than anything ALC could ever post

Fucking hell :lol:

This is by far the worst page in the history of this forum Disgusting

Next time make sure to pay the main ref and not just the guy standing at the goalline you fucking cheapskate. Almost cost us the game ffs

Oh, the driving skills.