Massimiliano Allegri (245 Viewers)
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Yes I do. If they were judging things on one tie he would've been fired post Bayern at the earliest, post Cardiff at the latest.
Paratici's statements the other day were not the least bit political and didn't give any room for speculation. He was very specific in the way he talked about Max when he didn't have to be.
Paratici's statements the other day were not the least bit political and didn't give any room for speculation. He was very specific in the way he talked about Max when he didn't have to be.
I hope for return leg we go all out. Cautious aporoach where we are testing opponent, looking out there like a teenage boy mustering up courage to ask a girl on a date, or in our case defense having most possession aint gonna cut it . Endless passing among players in our backline is exactly what teams like Atletico want. Their entire game is based on letting opponent feel like they are controlling the game, while closing down important areas. We have nothing to lose. We can play like shit, like yesterday and go out with 0-0, or we can man the fuck up and give them game. Lets go out with a bang.
Yeah, I also think they're aware they didn't do right by him neglecting the midfield all these years. They can't possibly be blind or foolish enough and think this collection of players is good enough.
I thought he was going to leave the last two years, now I'm completely torn, don't know what to think. On one hand he looks out of ideas and lacking motivation himself. On the other he may be stubborn enough to stay for another 5.
I thought he was going to leave the last two years, now I'm completely torn, don't know what to think. On one hand he looks out of ideas and lacking motivation himself. On the other he may be stubborn enough to stay for another 5.
Yeah, it would definitely feel strange for them to be in position to dictate the game. They are physical team that thrives on bullying opponents and forcing them into errors. But that ship has sailed now. We cant sit back and wait in the return leg. Also our counter attacks are rarely amounting to anything worthwhile. Eventhough we are on a way to set new Serie A points record, we are looking worse than in any of previous Allegri's seasons. Very disjointed with players stumbling at one another, going after the same ball, lack of ideas around the box and rellying too much on individual play. I cant even pin the blame on our midfield as they are comfortably at least on par with Atletico. Allegri needs to come up with something else.
After a good night rest I am usually able to rationalize and come back at some ridiculous claims I might have made the day before. Not today.
This whole thing really started last year. The club put immense pressure on itself by thinking this is going to be the year to win the title, after losing that final in Cardiff and again almost eliminating real Madrid with the GOAT in their team, management really thought by adding Ronaldo we would be favorites to win this whole thing. Allegri was never the coach that would go all out, especially into the first game of a knock out, but he has been extra cautious this year. Maybe he doesn't fully trust his team to close down games the way we used to do, maybe he was afraid of conceding and relied too much on our attacking brilliance to create that one opportunity. Whatever he thought it failed miserably. I am blaming management as much, if not even more, for this fiasco. The midfield they created is simply not worthy of Juventus. It's not even the best in Italy, and it easily falls outside the top 3/4 in both Spain and England. BUT, having said that, Allegri should have learned from the last 4 years. In every single year we didnt make the final, we got knocked out in a similar fashion. We had Bayern and Real by the throat and could have killed both games off by getting that one extra away goal. Instead he decided to soak up pressure after which we conceded. Heck, even against Tottenham, we did the same and got extremely lucky in the away game.
Yesterday he played right into Atletico's hands. He the experienced manager should have known what their approach is, it didnt change a single bit to say 4/5 years ago. In our 3 games against them, we did not score a SINGLE time, heck the changes we created in all 3 games can probably be counted on 1 hand.
Regardless of what happens in the return leg (because I still believe we have a slight chance), I lost faith in him and this team. He took us as far as he could (and I am extremely grateful for that as hr made us an European powerhouse once again), but I cant see us winning the champions league with him unless he drastically changes his approach.
Management might not fire him, but I do believe he will throw in the towel himself. This summer we simply need a complete overhaul. Panic, as long as you surround him with capable midfielders is the only midfielder who should have a legitimate shot as a starter. Every other one of them shouldn't even compete in the champions league let alone be a starter for a team as Juventus. It pains me to see what management has done to a midfield I have been dreaming about for such a long time and replaced them with scrub.
We have 3 games to prepare for the return, one of them is against Napoli and I dont even give a fuck if we lose or win in that one, but I want us to approach that game as if we are playing against Atletico. Full blazing with the team that should start against Atletico, and that means playing with Pjanic - Matuidi in midfield and Bernardeschi, Dybala and Ronaldo supporting Mandzukic. Cancelo and Spina as wingbacks and BC as centre backs.
This whole thing really started last year. The club put immense pressure on itself by thinking this is going to be the year to win the title, after losing that final in Cardiff and again almost eliminating real Madrid with the GOAT in their team, management really thought by adding Ronaldo we would be favorites to win this whole thing. Allegri was never the coach that would go all out, especially into the first game of a knock out, but he has been extra cautious this year. Maybe he doesn't fully trust his team to close down games the way we used to do, maybe he was afraid of conceding and relied too much on our attacking brilliance to create that one opportunity. Whatever he thought it failed miserably. I am blaming management as much, if not even more, for this fiasco. The midfield they created is simply not worthy of Juventus. It's not even the best in Italy, and it easily falls outside the top 3/4 in both Spain and England. BUT, having said that, Allegri should have learned from the last 4 years. In every single year we didnt make the final, we got knocked out in a similar fashion. We had Bayern and Real by the throat and could have killed both games off by getting that one extra away goal. Instead he decided to soak up pressure after which we conceded. Heck, even against Tottenham, we did the same and got extremely lucky in the away game.
Yesterday he played right into Atletico's hands. He the experienced manager should have known what their approach is, it didnt change a single bit to say 4/5 years ago. In our 3 games against them, we did not score a SINGLE time, heck the changes we created in all 3 games can probably be counted on 1 hand.
Regardless of what happens in the return leg (because I still believe we have a slight chance), I lost faith in him and this team. He took us as far as he could (and I am extremely grateful for that as hr made us an European powerhouse once again), but I cant see us winning the champions league with him unless he drastically changes his approach.
Management might not fire him, but I do believe he will throw in the towel himself. This summer we simply need a complete overhaul. Panic, as long as you surround him with capable midfielders is the only midfielder who should have a legitimate shot as a starter. Every other one of them shouldn't even compete in the champions league let alone be a starter for a team as Juventus. It pains me to see what management has done to a midfield I have been dreaming about for such a long time and replaced them with scrub.
We have 3 games to prepare for the return, one of them is against Napoli and I dont even give a fuck if we lose or win in that one, but I want us to approach that game as if we are playing against Atletico. Full blazing with the team that should start against Atletico, and that means playing with Pjanic - Matuidi in midfield and Bernardeschi, Dybala and Ronaldo supporting Mandzukic. Cancelo and Spina as wingbacks and BC as centre backs.
There are a lot of players who haven’t improved or even regressed since they joined Juventus
Dybala still hasn’t improved much from his first season
Pjanic has regressed since 2015-2017
Sandro has regressed since 16/17
Ronaldo will likely end this CL campaign with 1 goal
Higuain never hit the heights he did for Napoli
Even Bernardeschi hasn’t hit the heights he did in his final season at Fiorentina
There is a common theme here. All creative attacking players become worse when they join Juventus, like the creativity is sucked out of them by a negative vacuum.
What we need is a new coach, an attacking coach with a positive and confident mindset.
Dybala still hasn’t improved much from his first season
Pjanic has regressed since 2015-2017
Sandro has regressed since 16/17
Ronaldo will likely end this CL campaign with 1 goal
Higuain never hit the heights he did for Napoli
Even Bernardeschi hasn’t hit the heights he did in his final season at Fiorentina
There is a common theme here. All creative attacking players become worse when they join Juventus, like the creativity is sucked out of them by a negative vacuum.
What we need is a new coach, an attacking coach with a positive and confident mindset.
"There is a common theme here. All creative attacking players become worse when they join Juventus, like the creativity is sucked out of them by a negative vacuum."
This sums up allegri very well.He is just to rigid and has an obsession with controlling football.
I can understand his obsession with play for a 0-0 and if were lucky maybe bag a goal ,but juve is not the defensive powerhouse form 2 3 seasons ago.
At least we can expect an unshackled juve in the return leg when we got nothing to lose with the damage already done.
I will always respect him for what he has done, but it is time for a change.
If we qualify I am going to assume that he has sold his soul to the devil.
This sums up allegri very well.He is just to rigid and has an obsession with controlling football.
I can understand his obsession with play for a 0-0 and if were lucky maybe bag a goal ,but juve is not the defensive powerhouse form 2 3 seasons ago.
At least we can expect an unshackled juve in the return leg when we got nothing to lose with the damage already done.
I will always respect him for what he has done, but it is time for a change.
If we qualify I am going to assume that he has sold his soul to the devil.
It is a lot easier to impress as an attacking player in a smaller team that isn't playing against teams that put 11 players behind the ball.
Dybala has improved as a player but is in a completely different role that doesn't get the best out of him.
Pjanic is playing in a terrible midfield
Sandro has regressed
Ronaldo has been superb
Higuain has aged and as above was playing against more defensive tactics
Bernadeschi is undoubtably a better player than he was at Fiorentina. He has improved significantly even just this season. He should have more of a role in the team.
This is coming from someone who thinks that Allegri is too negative at times.
Dybala has improved as a player but is in a completely different role that doesn't get the best out of him.
Pjanic is playing in a terrible midfield
Sandro has regressed
Ronaldo has been superb
Higuain has aged and as above was playing against more defensive tactics
Bernadeschi is undoubtably a better player than he was at Fiorentina. He has improved significantly even just this season. He should have more of a role in the team.
This is coming from someone who thinks that Allegri is too negative at times.
