how ? a few months ago the US wanted to topple assad, but as expected they are helping him now
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Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (6 Viewers)
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It's Muslims who are getting killed, robbed, insulted and still you're trying to find them guilty of persecution. Is this Dr. Ibrahim, whoever is he, have videos other than complaining about evil doings of Muslims? Such as atrocities in Palestine, protesters burned alive by Egypt army?
As if Christians and Jews had 1/1000 of the tolerance Muslims showed them. Compare Caliph Omar's conquest with Crusaders' conquest of Al Quds. Check what happened to locals? Do people even know there was a Muslim nation in Spain which ruled more than 600 years? Can you see any sign of Muslims existence in Spain today? Or Balkans, what is left from the Ottomans whom also ruled for 500 years?
It's thanks to tolerance of Muslims, you're able to talk about Christians and their 1500 years old churches in Iraq today.
@Bisco When Muslims and others lived in harmony, it was an Islamic Caliphate which you hate even hearing of its name. Allah knows, you're the one who is trying hard to twist the religion according to your preferences.
As if Christians and Jews had 1/1000 of the tolerance Muslims showed them. Compare Caliph Omar's conquest with Crusaders' conquest of Al Quds. Check what happened to locals? Do people even know there was a Muslim nation in Spain which ruled more than 600 years? Can you see any sign of Muslims existence in Spain today? Or Balkans, what is left from the Ottomans whom also ruled for 500 years?
It's thanks to tolerance of Muslims, you're able to talk about Christians and their 1500 years old churches in Iraq today.
@Bisco When Muslims and others lived in harmony, it was an Islamic Caliphate which you hate even hearing of its name. Allah knows, you're the one who is trying hard to twist the religion according to your preferences.
yup this Adnan ibrahim had a friday sermon where he almost begged your beloved muslim brotherhood/traitors to with draw and accept the out come of the egyptain people to avoid bloodshed because it was over!! ( funny it really is over as you can see every one accepts egypt now despite poor butthurt erdogan crying for the world to punish egypt 
in the un) any way he also admitted there was no such thing as islamic project and he went far to say morsy and the MB were utter failures and they did not take there chance when they were offered to return back to politics after the 9 month transition period that all political parties including the salafists agreed on!! instead they decided to play the victim card, they decided to sell there country, they decided to rely on western influence to interfere with egypt's sovereignty, etc etc. any way he did say all that and i recommend you find the vid's on youtube. any way i am paast trying to explain this to you because you are a hopeless case with this regards. as for the calipha non sense, first of all you cant compare omar ibn al kattab with the caliphate under the ottomans. i have objections because i dont want a nut case ruling us according to his understanding of islam or under the flag of religion where he can control people with religion example ISIS or even the ottomans who are not very innocent either. i love how you mention the egyptain army yet you forget that the ottomans have much much more blood on there hand lets just say the Armenians will beg to differ. as for twisting islam or what ever you accused me, i will not go down this road because, however these verses you posted a page ago, well you very comfortably forgot to mention that in quran god says that christians are the closest to muslims, you also forgot to mention that we can marry a jewish woman,or a christian woman with out having to force her to convert to islam you simply throw this verse with out even considering the context this verse was revealed to the holy prophet.
we then come to isis and that muslims are being killed blah blah.... first of all you need to understand the origins of all these radical groups and you need to understand whilst you sit and accuse sisi of being mossad and that Muslims are victims targeted all over the world for there faith. lets take isis they were and still are nothing more than a tool used by the americans, isreal, qatar, saudi's, turkey and all these groups have gains to make from there existence. i will go with turkey so you can have a reality check, turkey needs to make sure all the region surrounding it is in disorder to have supremacy in the region like the good old times!! its all part of a power struggle. you think the heads in turkey give two shits about Muslims?? they r just like the mb they use religious slogans for there best benefits and not because they are the guards of islam as you seem to be believing. the Muslim brotherhood were created for the exact same purpose by the saudi's and ex colonial powers to put a check on egypt and specially during the Nasser period. these are all historical facts that you simply choose to brush aside and instead you go with they r targeting muslims, and that they dont want Muslims to come to power blah blah.
i highly recommend you get off your high horse and all your false understandings and listen to this, i don't care if you believe in this or not its your free choice but listen and do your research with out getting your religious panties in a twist.
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the good old boogeyman indeed never fails in bringing out the craziness out of this region....
in the un) any way he also admitted there was no such thing as islamic project and he went far to say morsy and the MB were utter failures and they did not take there chance when they were offered to return back to politics after the 9 month transition period that all political parties including the salafists agreed on!! instead they decided to play the victim card, they decided to sell there country, they decided to rely on western influence to interfere with egypt's sovereignty, etc etc. any way he did say all that and i recommend you find the vid's on youtube. any way i am paast trying to explain this to you because you are a hopeless case with this regards. as for the calipha non sense, first of all you cant compare omar ibn al kattab with the caliphate under the ottomans. i have objections because i dont want a nut case ruling us according to his understanding of islam or under the flag of religion where he can control people with religion example ISIS or even the ottomans who are not very innocent either. i love how you mention the egyptain army yet you forget that the ottomans have much much more blood on there hand lets just say the Armenians will beg to differ. as for twisting islam or what ever you accused me, i will not go down this road because, however these verses you posted a page ago, well you very comfortably forgot to mention that in quran god says that christians are the closest to muslims, you also forgot to mention that we can marry a jewish woman,or a christian woman with out having to force her to convert to islam you simply throw this verse with out even considering the context this verse was revealed to the holy prophet. we then come to isis and that muslims are being killed blah blah.... first of all you need to understand the origins of all these radical groups and you need to understand whilst you sit and accuse sisi of being mossad and that Muslims are victims targeted all over the world for there faith. lets take isis they were and still are nothing more than a tool used by the americans, isreal, qatar, saudi's, turkey and all these groups have gains to make from there existence. i will go with turkey so you can have a reality check, turkey needs to make sure all the region surrounding it is in disorder to have supremacy in the region like the good old times!! its all part of a power struggle. you think the heads in turkey give two shits about Muslims?? they r just like the mb they use religious slogans for there best benefits and not because they are the guards of islam as you seem to be believing. the Muslim brotherhood were created for the exact same purpose by the saudi's and ex colonial powers to put a check on egypt and specially during the Nasser period. these are all historical facts that you simply choose to brush aside and instead you go with they r targeting muslims, and that they dont want Muslims to come to power blah blah.
i highly recommend you get off your high horse and all your false understandings and listen to this, i don't care if you believe in this or not its your free choice but listen and do your research with out getting your religious panties in a twist.
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aka The Shia Boogeyman
I've been trying not to discuss religion in this thread since ages, but as everybody else is doing that, I have no other choice...
I have been asking the fans of Adnan Ibrahim this question since ages, but nobody dared to answer. Your icon said he believes in the work of Darwin 99% and he considers himself an Islamic scholar. My question is:
How does believing in the work of Darwin and being a Muslim scholar are not contradictory?
Please don't give me a link for a video. I saw many of his videos, and they are so long and are random thoughts that give no full answer to any question. Just give me one brief answer for my question.
I have been asking the fans of Adnan Ibrahim this question since ages, but nobody dared to answer. Your icon said he believes in the work of Darwin 99% and he considers himself an Islamic scholar. My question is:
How does believing in the work of Darwin and being a Muslim scholar are not contradictory?
Please don't give me a link for a video. I saw many of his videos, and they are so long and are random thoughts that give no full answer to any question. Just give me one brief answer for my question.
And why would Muslims give up on their country just because Dr. Ibrahim(whoever is he) tell them so? It's not UN but Allah will give your punishment, like Pharaoh and his followers, today's Pharaoh and his followers will be buried in the middle of desert when the day comes.
Sorry i can't watch a 1 hour long video, i barely have a patience to sit through football games other than Juve matches, so i can't listen a guy who is talking a language i don't understand(i can understand what i read but it's not same with listening). So please tell who is REALLY behind ISIS(as if i support them) if you want me to comment on it.
Sorry i can't watch a 1 hour long video, i barely have a patience to sit through football games other than Juve matches, so i can't listen a guy who is talking a language i don't understand(i can understand what i read but it's not same with listening). So please tell who is REALLY behind ISIS(as if i support them) if you want me to comment on it.
I don't think any modern scientists believe in the work of Darwin 99% (or 100%). After all, it's science, not prophecy, it's not meant to be 100% correct, it's just a stepping stone in the advancement of knowledge. The core of evolution has been validated, but many of the details have been found to be inaccurate and have been developed further.
This is totally understandable, but when somebody comes to say that he believes in 99% of Darwin's work while Quran says many times that humans were created as they are by God, and then he describes himself as an Islamic scholar, well, this person can not be taken seriously.
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They are still ruling Sanaa, Eddy. Talk to Yemenis. No more tanks are there in Sanaa. They were all stolen by Houthis. The president is their dummy by the way.
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They are still ruling Sanaa, Eddy. Talk to Yemenis. No more tanks are there in Sanaa. They were all stolen by Houthis. The president is their dummy by the way.
with shit like this there will never be peace in ME. Aren't you all Muslims anyway???