Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (30 Viewers)

Is Iraq better now?

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Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
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I wonder if Muhammad ever had any clue that followers in his name would one day include nut jobs who behead others in grocery stores. Perhaps he might have overlooked the evils of a hierarchical authority within Islam knowing that...
See this is one of the things I talk about frequently with my wife about...I believe in God, the prophets, etc. BUT, if Islam was truly God, written down in a book, don't you think He would have seen this coming ESPECIALLY since the Quaran is supposed to transgress time? That's the problem with the extremists, they translate their book as it MUST be followed as it was back then, rather than in accordance to modern times.
It was foretold. The Holy Prophet (phub) said:

A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its name and nothing will remain of the Qur’an except its script. Mosques will be full of worshippers, but as far as righteousness is concerned they will be empty and deserted. Their 'Ulama’ (religious scholars) will be the worst of creatures under the canopy of the heavens. Evil plots will originate from them and to them will they return.
[Extra credit for those researching Islam: Notice he says "their Ulema"...meaning out of the 73 divisions Islam will see, only one will be righteous, and those would be belonging to him. ] :p

Also, it's worth nothing that despite all the bad publicity Islam is getting post-9/11, it is still the fastest spreading religion in the world and it's growing faster now than before...notable among educated single Western women.
 

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ReBeL

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    A Filipino group just announced it will kill a German hostage if the attacks on IS do not stop.
     

    Hust

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    May 29, 2005
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    It was foretold. The Holy Prophet (phub) said:



    [Extra credit for those researching Islam: Notice he says "their Ulema"...meaning out of the 73 divisions Islam will see, only one will be righteous, and those would be belonging to him. ] :p

    Also, it's worth nothing that despite all the bad publicity Islam is getting post-9/11, it is still the fastest spreading religion in the world and it's growing faster now than before...notable among educated single Western women.
    Which one will be righteous?

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    Crazy jihadist pinoys out on remote islands can be so mental sometimes.
    Lol like its going to stop the bombing. They know it won't stop the west and they do it only to rally support to their cause as the "victims" again.

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    http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/26/sharia-law-is-coming-oklahoma-beheader-celebrated-terrorists-disparaged-non-muslims-on-facebook/

    Going to be an interesting ride with our next military campaign.
     
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    ReBeL

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    US defense minister announced that Britain, Belgium, Holland, and Denmark joined the coalition against IS
     

    Zacheryah

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    Aug 29, 2010
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    Belgium will only assist in Iraq, not Syria.


    This discussion on "what to do against ISIS" is an interesting one. Pretty much every country with a muslim majority joins the coalition against ISIS. But is bombing the answer ?
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    Apr 14, 2005
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    Belgium will only assist in Iraq, not Syria.


    This discussion on "what to do against ISIS" is an interesting one. Pretty much every country with a muslim majority joins the coalition against ISIS. But is bombing the answer ?

    my guess is the coalition to bomb the shit out of them, and the syrians/hezbullah to kick them out of syria on the ground, and then they get bombed some more as they retreat to either the turkish or iraqi borders.




    old article but really insightful: http://www.meforum.org/3683/bandar-bin-sultan-syria
     

    Enron

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    Oct 11, 2005
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    Belgium will only assist in Iraq, not Syria.


    This discussion on "what to do against ISIS" is an interesting one. Pretty much every country with a muslim majority joins the coalition against ISIS. But is bombing the answer ?
    Rolling thunder is an expensive but popular solution. Easier for the public to swallow than sending the troops.
     

    Zacheryah

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    Aug 29, 2010
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    I'm wondering what situation we are looking at when that is all done


    Its a good thing several Islam religious leaders have openly dismissed ISIS and went over several points to prove they are going agaisnt the Qur'an with what they are doing.


    I think thats very important to prohibit to happen there what happens here in west europe : Young adults who lost the way, usually became trouble, and seek to join a radical organisation. The international appeal to ISIS must be ended.
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    Apr 14, 2005
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    imo to truly end it, there needs to be an ideological first and economic second struggle against the 2 mains sunni radical forces: wahhabis and muslim brotherhood. It is obvious that their populist rhetoric has some resonance with some muslims, as exhibited by some members here. But as long as they are around, the muslims(especially in the middle east) will continue to struggle both with their image in the world and politically.
     

    Bjerknes

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    Mar 16, 2004
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    If u don't care about Syria then u shouldn't be choosing between the two. It's not like ISIS has done anything to threaten US! Maybe it threats the US policies in Iraq, all the investment in Army and everything else, is going down the drain.
    I can have any opinion I want. Obviously I would rather have someone like Assad in there rather than a bunch of extremists. Going against Assad only destabilizes the region. Isn't it already destroyed enough?
     
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    Bisco

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    First comment on this article

    ''It's now official. Becoming a Muslim is the same as joining a Gang - blood in and blood out.''

    I told this months ago in this forum. Isis is a project to start worldwide witch hunt against Muslims. So-called civilized did not hesitate to take the bait.
    Ironic considering Isis training camps were/are on Turkish land. Considering mighty erdo is a supporter of removing st m the Muslim hating Syrian regime right Turk?
     

    Bisco

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    Nov 21, 2005
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    Careful bro, this guy is a joke, he is professional at twisting words. In this video he said words that non of us disagree with, but I can show you many other videos where he insulted the Prophet's wife and his companions.

    He never studied under an scholar, his scholar was books, and like the big scholars used to say: "Who his scholar are books then his mistakes will be more than his senses".
    i heard about this mo, and on al arabiya he explained all this and how it was taken out of context. can you pm me the vid's where he insults the prophets wife and companions.

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    i showed a video of his, regarding evolution, to @Zacheryah and he loved it
    X can you pass it off to me too :D
     

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