Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (19 Viewers)

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Hust

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May 29, 2005
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I'm no fan of Obama, but I don't get this cartoon.
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I don't think any modern scientists believe in the work of Darwin 99% (or 100%). After all, it's science, not prophecy, it's not meant to be 100% correct, it's just a stepping stone in the advancement of knowledge. The core of evolution has been validated, but many of the details have been found to be inaccurate and have been developed further.
Maybe the 1% of Darwin he didn't believe was the creation of man. The 99% was for everything else. :D
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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So we (Australia) went to war in 2001 and 2003 due to terrorism and WMD (which were never found of course, but forget about the hundreds of thousands dead).

Since these wars, the terrorism threat is apparently higher than ever, and our solution is again, to go to war?

Sounds logical.
 
Jul 2, 2006
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So we (Australia) went to war in 2001 and 2003 due to terrorism and WMD (which were never found of course, but forget about the hundreds of thousands dead).

Since these wars, the terrorism threat is apparently higher than ever, and our solution is again, to go to war?

Sounds logical.
No matter how fucked up the situation is, things are actually going according to their plan.
 
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Tevez10

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Aug 29, 2013
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No matter how fucked up the situation is, things are actually going according to their plan.
Turk, what's the situation on Kobane (Border between Syria and Turkey).

Turkey is kind of helping ISIS (as it has been reported). PKK and the other kurdish guys are getting fucked by ISIS.
ISIS is a terrorist group, so is PKK. US backs PKK, but is against ISIS, it's very complicated.
 
Jul 2, 2006
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Turk, what's the situation on Kobane (Border between Syria and Turkey).

Turkey is kind of helping ISIS (as it has been reported). PKK and the other kurdish guys are getting fucked by ISIS.
ISIS is a terrorist group, so is PKK. US backs PKK, but is against ISIS, it's very complicated.
Turkey never helped ISIS, it was Free Syrian Army and according to some, Al Nusra as well. PKK and Peshmerga are really getting fucked by ISIS. As for Kobane, reports are saying it is about the fall, Turkish tanks at border if anyone decide to try something stupid. Türkiye done more than anyone else would do for Kurds. More than 200,000 Kurds have entered Turkiye since the attacks began. Total number of Syrian refugees are reaching 1,5 million. 70,000 babies born in Türkiye. Whole Europe accepted only 130,000 Syrian refugees so far. It costs billions $, not to mention increasing crime rate, house rents, prices and fights between different ethnic and religious groups to deal with. Yet some unthankful dogs barking about how Turks are not doing enough. What do they expect? Turkish Army to enter Syria and fight for a marxist terrorist group who want to take their lands, killing their people for last 30 years?
 
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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    Turkey never helped ISIS, it was Free Syrian Army and according to some, Al Nusra as well. PKK and Peshmerga are really getting $#@!ed by ISIS. As for Kobane, reports are saying it is about the fall, Turkish tanks at border if anyone decide to try something stupid. Türkiye done more than anyone else would do for Kurds. More than 200,000 Kurds have entered Turkiye since the attacks began. Total number of Syrian refugees are reaching 1,5 million. 70,000 babies born in Türkiye. Whole Europe accepted only 130,000 Syrian refugees so far. It costs billions $, not to mention increasing crime rate, house rents, prices and fights between different ethnic and religious groups to deal with. Yet some unthankful dogs barking about how Turks are not doing enough. What do they expect? Turkish Army to enter Syria and fight for a marxist terrorist group who want to take their lands, killing their people for last 30 years?
    Well, Turkey has done the best for Syrian refugees so far relatively to all neighbor countries. Nobody can argue with that ever.

    As for Kobane, I read that some PKK are trying to enter it from Turkey while the Turkish army is forbidding them from doing so. That is why some people think that the Turkish army is helping IS.
     
    Jul 2, 2006
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    Well, Turkey has done the best for Syrian refugees so far relatively to all neighbor countries. Nobody can argue with that ever.

    As for Kobane, I read that some PKK are trying to enter it from Turkey while the Turkish army is forbidding them from doing so. That is why some people think that the Turkish army is helping IS.
    That would be only logical thing to do as nobody want terrorists to cross their borders. Why would we let them come in and deploy more landmines,set up ambushes, kidnap teachers and engineers, recruit 13 years old from villagers?
     

    Tevez10

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    Aug 29, 2013
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    It's logical though, PKK and ISIS are both considered terrorist groups. It's good turkey is not helping any of the terrorist groups, at least they are saying so! Helping PKK is no different from helping ISIS!

    I just read in aljazeera that ISIS are 2km near Kobane. And last night I happen to see some footages in Kobane, between ISIS and PKK. ISIS are way stronger than PKK, and it's about time before Kobane falls to them.
     

    Fred

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    Oct 2, 2003
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    I doubt Turkey intentionally helped ISIS, maybe in an indirect way because of their support of the Syrian revolution, but to actually consciously help ISIS is far fetched imo. Especially when you take into consideration that ISIS would definitely consider Erdogan and his party infidels as well.
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    Apr 14, 2005
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    I doubt Turkey intentionally helped ISIS, maybe in an indirect way because of their support of the Syrian revolution, but to actually consciously help ISIS is far fetched imo. Especially when you take into consideration that ISIS would definitely consider Erdogan and his party infidels as well.
    thats just rhetoric, also who buys isis oil?
     

    Tevez10

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    Aug 29, 2013
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    I doubt Turkey intentionally helped ISIS, maybe in an indirect way because of their support of the Syrian revolution, but to actually consciously help ISIS is far fetched imo. Especially when you take into consideration that ISIS would definitely consider Erdogan and his party infidels as well.
    How about it was the only way for turkey to get rid of kurds via ISIS?
     

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