Its really sad, feel sorry for the powerless civilians who cant stand them, they are completely at the mercy of evil barbarians again.
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Its really sad, feel sorry for the powerless civilians who cant stand them, they are completely at the mercy of evil barbarians again.
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Unfortunately, bankrolling the corrupt to the core Karzai and his gang was the dumbest decision ever. Too bad the west could not feel the pulse [of the basic sentiments] of the local population. The resultant rampant corruption, instability, lack of basic amenities of life, etc despite all the bribes to the so called influential leaders, shouldn’t really surprise anyone.
Saw a video of an Afghan woman film producer fleeing from a set. She and her colleagues sponsored an Avant-garde film festival just last week. The way I see it US spent $2T to give some false sense of security to a group of Afghan citizens to have nice things. Of course they’ll be way to be deprived of those things.
The money spent was not distributed equally either. The people who benefited the most are the first ones to leave and take refuge elsewhere. Dostum in in Uzbekistan; Ghani is in Tajikistan, etc. ordinary citizens did not get a big piece of the pie, and now stand to lose more. I bet that lady producer will soon be in another country.
I am pretty familiar with the money rerouting schemes, i have friends and family who worked in Afghanistan in different capacities during this timw. It doesn't matter imo if indeed the citizenry saw taliban as an existential threat they would do everything in their power to make something happen. But i am convinced they want the taliban, so let them have em.
Not a huge fan of Biden, but wasn´t he in a lose-lose situation here? The Taliban takeover was inevitable as soon as the foreign troops were out, whether in 2021 or 2031.
Taliban was in control in 2001 before Bush, and they regained control after the Americans left. Are the Americans supposed to stay there forever? This peaceful transition in cooperation with Taliban was never going to happen anyways, whether with Trump, Biden whoever.
An Afghan friend also told me countries like China, Iran, Pakistan and some of the Arabian Peninsula were happy for Taliban to gain control to get rid of the American influence/presence in the region for good.
Taliban was in control in 2001 before Bush, and they regained control after the Americans left. Are the Americans supposed to stay there forever? This peaceful transition in cooperation with Taliban was never going to happen anyways, whether with Trump, Biden whoever.
An Afghan friend also told me countries like China, Iran, Pakistan and some of the Arabian Peninsula were happy for Taliban to gain control to get rid of the American influence/presence in the region for good.
The only thing that is certain is that the Taliban will have to be removed by Afghan citizens. Not only will they have to, but only they will be able to do it. All external interventions, as we have been able to see so far, only make them stronger. Until then, however, this land will be forgotten by civilization and God.
One bright side of this Taliban invasion, if there is one, is that now the secularists in the world, including in Muslim-majority countries like Turkey for example, will get better mobilized and will realize once and for all that Sharia is toxic, and that even Islam should stay the fuck away from public life as much as possible.
Certainly this will not happen in this decade. I’m not sure, though, that they really wanted to beat them under Western auspices. Too many differences in lifestyle, worldviews, too many tribes unable to unite ....
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In fact, it has been shown that religious fundamentalist doctrines are falling on fertile ground in Islamic countries, so I believe that there will be more and more Islamic extremes in these countries.
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In fact, it has been shown that religious fundamentalist doctrines are falling on fertile ground in Islamic countries, so I believe that there will be more and more Islamic extremes in these countries.