to avoid derailing the Seria A thread i chose to finally post my opinion on this entire topic and finally step in to this thread to try and clarify why Rus is no different than the extremists on the other team or the religious people or as he loves putting it people with no brains who decide to believe in fairy tales or myths or what not.
i think its alright for people to have religions and also alright for others to choose not too, its a personal choice for each and every one. its not my job to force religion down sheik's. martin, salvo etc throats!! the same way they dont force there way of thinking on me, sure we debate and thats a healthy and good thing but its with a lot of respect. martin knows my faith but that does'nt mean me and him are not friends and actually we talk from time to time and we exchange opinions about various topics. the same applies to salvo, sheik, hoori, etc. to go and make fun of what others believe in is not right regardless of yr stand on the topic.
Rus you choose to mourn people the way that suits you but you have nothing to say against how others choose to mourn others. let me tell you a short story, you know what i hate the most about certain fundamentalist muslims?? i hate the people who take the extreme route to this religion and as many other muslims here will tell u they exist and they have poisoned idea's that are screaming bigotry and discrimination!! ask fred, yamen, rebel, tahir, hoori, about this they will paint you a colourful picture. people who abuse religion dont necessarily mean the religion is horrible, nor does it mean other people who r moderate are bad, stupid, retarded, call them what ever you want!! if we used that logic and i toke the extremist side like these people preach let me tell u i would've missed out on many friends i have been blessed to have on this forum and in real life bec they believe in a different faith or none.
instead of calling people morons, and instead of judging people by religion u should at least try to learn to respect that not every one has the brain power you have that has shown u the truth. in the same time, people who chose to believe in faith should not force it on you, and should respect that u choose to believe there is no god. but to go on an insult spree and make fun of religions is not acceptable and if anything makes u a lose a lot of respect.
and one last thing, insha Allah is not a bad word nor is it wishing evil on someone, i wish you would do some research before assaulting any one who uses it.
the bottom line is, its more than alright to debate this topic but with out it becoming a competition to insult one another, or mocking the faiths of others.
one last thing a couple of pages back jasper quoted a list of names of members that voted on the poll for god existing and posted that he lost a lot of respect for them. i dare to ask why?? i mean what does that have to do with anything?? you should'nt judge people with what they believe in or there faith instead judge them by how they treat you. if you dont you seriously are missing out on a lot, mainly meeting and learning a thing or two about people, cultures, and the diversity of backgrounds.
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