Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (14 Viewers)

[AndreaCristiano]

You know what else is considered ok and jut a regular thing? Women's and minority rights.

This coming from someone who listens to rap which minimizes women and uses the nigga word like its breathing. Your hypocrisy abounds. If that really mattered to you that degrading shit you call music wouldn't be on your play list

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[X Æ A-12]

This coming from someone who listens to rap which minimizes women and uses the nigga word like its breathing. Your hypocrisy abounds. If that really mattered to you that degrading shit you call music wouldn't be on your play list

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Christians claiming that Hip hop degrades women. That's pathetic.

 

[ALC]

It's fucking music.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

It's $#@!ing music.

What's that mean. Its music its vulgar and disgusting. It shows a lack of respect and class

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[AndreaCristiano]

Christians claiming that Hip hop degrades women. That's pathetic.

You can say whatever you like from your soap box kyle but I have nothing but respect for women , minorities etc etc. If my fiance was a on here she would tell you what kind of man I am. Or my friends. You all make assumptions and think you have any idea of what kind of man or Christian I am.

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[Noodle]

Smh now niggas gon attack hip-hop.

 

[ALC]

What's that mean. Its music its vulgar and disgusting. It shows a lack of respect and class

So what if it is "vulgar"? It's not holding women or black people down. It's a form of entertainment. If a TV show is about murder, does that mean that it's promoting murder? didn't think so.

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You can say whatever you like from your soap box kyle but I have nothing but respect for women , minorities etc etc. If my fiance was a on here she would tell you what kind of man I am. Or my friends. You all make assumptions and think you have any idea of what kind of man or Christian I am.

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No one is saying anything about you, but the whole "what's on TV today" bullshit is retarded. It's entertainment and that's what people wanna watch. Christianity is being anti-diversity and discriminatory for frowning upon them.

Smh now niggas gon attack hip-hop.

I know right?! Bitches be crazy. Just let a nigga be.

 

[Nzoric]

I don't agree. Diversity is fine. Raz is saying that the Christianity incorporated into society is a fallacy. Secular TV and entertainment is very antiChristian

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You go through 10 channels and minimum 7 people died 2 were raped and everybody is laughing out of shit knows what(stupid comedies without any plot or anything worth looking in them)

I'm not saying diversity is bad, not at all, just that seeing murder, sex, violence is not such a good thing. Funny thing is that christianity is considered brainwashing, while todays tv is ok.

entertainment does not equal moral values in a society. it's not like those shows are telling people to go and do that. no, i meant when children are brought up, they are usually brought up following the basic christian moral guidelines. when you get punched in kindergarden, you're told to contact a grown up rather than punching back etc etc. i'm still waiting for a reply from ac regarding the bible and church symbiosis.

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Lol at the thing that these things are considered ok now and just a regular thing. It does it purpose good enough though.

i'm starting to realise why jasper dislikes you.

kyle: very good point.

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Smh now niggas gon attack hip-hop.

i know rite

 

[AndreaCristiano]

No one is saying anything about you, but the whole "what's on TV today" bull$#@! is retarded. It's entertainment and that's what people wanna watch. Christianity is being anti-diversity and discriminatory for frowning upon them.



I know right?! Bitches be crazy. Just let a $#@! be.

I never said people can not watch what they want did I? Neither did raz. He made the statement in reply to nzoric who said that Christianity is enveloped in secular society and we both said that it is not because of what is being celebrated or shown. No one said not to watch or to censor. We were referring to an erroneous statement.

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[Nzoric]

You AC, mind responding to my post on the earlier page?

 

[Noodle]

I know right?! Bitches be crazy. Just let a nigga be.

i know rite

 

[AndreaCristiano]

You AC, mind responding to my post on the earlier page?

Which one ?

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

bro I guarantee thats no ones reality on here but your own, on both sides of this discussion

I'm not tailoring my perception of reality to make me happy or anything. I'm just calling it as I see it. We are born without purpose. We just assign one to ourselves and devote or free time to it when we're not fulfilling the 2 needs that are natural to us: surviving and reproducing. A divine purpose, if I can call it so, is something we assign for ourselves. It's not natural. It's man made.

no bro you are lost haha you have to search god again and he will love you more than people who always believed in him.

Which god?

The truth is you have no idea if we have purpose or no, you have no proof if there is a god or no, and you certainly don't know what his desires would be. Yours is as good as guess as mine here.

No no no... We do have a purpose: surviving and reproducing. These 2 are obvious. You just don't want to accept it because you expected or purpose to be something grander.

Of course not. I'm not intending to say that universe is crated just for us. I'm just saying since we evolved consciousness I think our main i'm has changed to something different not only reproduce.

Then what is it? Tell me of a natural purpose that is common to all human beings other than surviving and reproducing?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

What? Where did I said I fallow any religion? Or when did I sidestep? it's first time I talked about bible.

And I asked because as far as I know there is no mention of hell in bible. Not to be on religious side, but to show how much people really know about what they talk.

You may not be affiliated to a particular religion, but you still have blind faith in something. You think that by believing in something that cannot be detected by human senses, you will be rewarded with something if/when it turns out to be true. The only difference is that you don't subscribe to a particular good or religion. But other than that, you are a man of faith.

 

[Nzoric]

Which one ?

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read them and reply to any of them for god's sake.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

You may not be affiliated to a particular religion, but you still have blind faith in something. You think that by believing in something that cannot be detected by human senses, you will be rewarded with something if/when it turns out to be true. The only difference is that you don't subscribe to a particular good or religion. But other than that, you are a man of faith.

and so are you, and dont ask me to answer you how again

 

[AndreaCristiano]

read them and reply to any of them for god's sake.

I don't see any questions that you asked that I didn't respond

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

and so are you, and dont ask me to answer you how again

I'm a man of reasonable expectations based on past performance, not blind faith.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I'm a man of reasonable expectations based on past performance, not blind faith.

Past performance ?

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

Past performance?

Perhaps 'past achievements' would be a better description.