Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (103 Viewers)
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Reserve your spot in one of the upcoming tuz bunkers. There will be one tuz bunker in Yurop, one in NA and one in SEA - locations to be disclosed. While there will be multiple living sections (Sarri brainlets get to live near the lavatory) all supplies shall be shared between tuzzers and there shall be no slavery (for now)
I didn't say that.
To capture the viewer's attention there is nothing better than fear. You have to remember the US medias propaganda to justify the war in Iraq, all the medias explained morning and evening, with evidence support that Sadam had hidden weapons to discover Bush's lie in the end. We have to be critical and not believe everything the media say.
In France, there are 3 continuous news channels that are in competition, until today the major subject was that the pension reform, but since today it is a non-stop coranavirus because a bus carrying Italians was checked in Lyon. As @Dostoevsky says, in comparaison each year in France 10,000 people die on average from the flu, one person died from the conavirus .
We don't really know what's going on in China, there is a lot of speculation and fantasy, like in 2011 for H1n1, based on that France bought 91 million vacins which have never been used, a bill of 394 million wasted.
To capture the viewer's attention there is nothing better than fear. You have to remember the US medias propaganda to justify the war in Iraq, all the medias explained morning and evening, with evidence support that Sadam had hidden weapons to discover Bush's lie in the end. We have to be critical and not believe everything the media say.
In France, there are 3 continuous news channels that are in competition, until today the major subject was that the pension reform, but since today it is a non-stop coranavirus because a bus carrying Italians was checked in Lyon. As @Dostoevsky says, in comparaison each year in France 10,000 people die on average from the flu, one person died from the conavirus .
We don't really know what's going on in China, there is a lot of speculation and fantasy, like in 2011 for H1n1, based on that France bought 91 million vacins which have never been used, a bill of 394 million wasted.
Sure, Kyle. Go read some news and nod to everything since you couldn't even answer the guy, probably because media haven't said anything related to Raphaël 's response.
Sure, Kyle. Go read some news and nod to everything since you couldn't even answer the guy, probably because media haven't said anything related to Raphaël 's response.
@Raphaël brought up examples of Ebola, SARs, common flu as worse. But that’s silly, he contradicts himself. Ebola is deadly as hell, but too deadly and not easily communicable enough to go around the world. Common flu has less than 1/10th the mortality rate of Covid-19 thus far, but is a worldwide seasonal thing that 100s of millions get so obviously death toll is way higher. SARs had higher mortality rate but was way less infectious so less than half the people died that have died from Covid-19 thus far.
So which is it? Mortality rate (his argument for Ebola and SARs) or overall death toll and rate of infection (common flu)?
In the modern world pandemics are far more likely in viruses with less than 5% mortality rates and long incubation periods. Things that hit way harder and way faster are easier to contain. Or so suggests most CDC info/etc.
You get facts from the previous flu, then wait and see what this does in a year time. There was a huge hype behind H1N1 and it was bullshit. Those numbers he posted are exactly why I said pharmacy houses are mafia.
I'm not denying mortality rate. I'm saying statistics are usually shit and you can't define much. 3%, maybe, but what % is older people?
I'm not denying mortality rate. I'm saying statistics are usually shit and you can't define much. 3%, maybe, but what % is older people?
So we’re just okay with old people dying? Weren’t you devastated by your grandparent dying? I know I was when my Ma’s parents died.
If the overall mortality rate is over 10x higher, that means it’s a lot more serious than common flu, amongst elders especially of course. The mortality rate is only like 0.4% among healthy people under 50. But common flu has a mortality rate under 0.05% in that same age group.
It’s a far deadlier virus. It’s just that simple. Whether it actually creates a pandemic is another story, and the media should of course chill a little there, while keeping people informed.
If the overall mortality rate is over 10x higher, that means it’s a lot more serious than common flu, amongst elders especially of course. The mortality rate is only like 0.4% among healthy people under 50. But common flu has a mortality rate under 0.05% in that same age group.
It’s a far deadlier virus. It’s just that simple. Whether it actually creates a pandemic is another story, and the media should of course chill a little there, while keeping people informed.
Of course not... like I'd happy if it's only elders. But it's not the same as it's not as dangerous for the youth.
He said that 10k on averages dies from the flu. H1N1 barely killed some, or even if it killed large numbers in France, it's less than a common flu. We can only see what happens with corona in a year time. If numbers go beyond 10k, or millions, sure, I was wrong.
Either way, neither you nor I can do something about it. IF it's as big as it's being presented, which I highly doubt, then there are no measures to handle such problem. It won't be possible to say "why we didn't react earlier" or something like that, as finding a cure takes over a year, while an individual can't do anything really. Do I see countries state a red alert like don't go to work, don't leave country, buy food and sit in your shelter? I don't think so.
He said that 10k on averages dies from the flu. H1N1 barely killed some, or even if it killed large numbers in France, it's less than a common flu. We can only see what happens with corona in a year time. If numbers go beyond 10k, or millions, sure, I was wrong.
Either way, neither you nor I can do something about it. IF it's as big as it's being presented, which I highly doubt, then there are no measures to handle such problem. It won't be possible to say "why we didn't react earlier" or something like that, as finding a cure takes over a year, while an individual can't do anything really. Do I see countries state a red alert like don't go to work, don't leave country, buy food and sit in your shelter? I don't think so.
i never disagreed that the a proft seeking media will seek to increase viewership through stories that scare on incite. i agree with that but its silly to claim this is being blown out of proportion.
neither you or dusan seem to want to address actual claims i made like the chinese government quarantining 700 million people in a move that will potentially wreck their economy. why would they do that if it wasnt an immensely serious situation? please explain china's endgame in that movr if the situation is not serious?
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Sure, Kyle. Go read some news and nod to everything since you couldn't even answer the guy, probably because media haven't said anything related to Raphaël 's response.
I did make points none if which you even bothered to address bevause they conflict with how youve already made up your mind.
its funny because i remember shortly after trump election you were on here ranting about how stupid americans are for it but all youve been able articulate, not actually addressing anything i said or points i made, is "you really believe mainstream media bruh?" aka trump supporter 101
is the chinese govt being duped by mainstream western media too? is that your argument? please do explain their rational behind the quarantine
neither you or dusan seem to want to address actual claims i made like the chinese government quarantining 700 million people in a move that will potentially wreck their economy. why would they do that if it wasnt an immensely serious situation? please explain china's endgame in that movr if the situation is not serious?
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Sure, Kyle. Go read some news and nod to everything since you couldn't even answer the guy, probably because media haven't said anything related to Raphaël 's response.
its funny because i remember shortly after trump election you were on here ranting about how stupid americans are for it but all youve been able articulate, not actually addressing anything i said or points i made, is "you really believe mainstream media bruh?" aka trump supporter 101
is the chinese govt being duped by mainstream western media too? is that your argument? please do explain their rational behind the quarantine
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