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JBF

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No, you don't get it. Pork got bad much more easily than other meat. Wine was probably banned because of drunk people. Doesn't take a genius really.
Since you're all of the sudden the Islam expert here, may you explain why dead animals' meat is also prohibited in Islam? As you well know :)howler) any dead animals' meat ,even if it was for a lamp, for example is prohibited unless it was in fact slaughtered for the sake of eating it.

Is it because of an old Arab Zombie myth?
 

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Martin

Martin

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    Since you're all of the sudden the Islam expert here, may you explain why dead animals' meat is also prohibited in Islam? As you well know :)howler) any dead animals' meat ,even if it was for a lamp, for example is prohibited unless it was in fact slaughtered for the sake of eating it.

    Is it because of an old Arab Zombie myth?
    You can't eat dead animals? So you have to eat them alive? That sounds like it would be very difficult.. what if it escapes?
     

    JBF

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    And men aren't perfect, bias is bound to set in. The word of Allah can be the truth the mistakes can be attributed to the fact the Muhammad was just a man, if you see my point. A man wrote the Qur'an, I mean that's a fact and the book would have been different had another man been chosen as a prophet.

    Anyway, Islam grew out of Arabia, hence some imagery and phrases are Arabia centric. That's just a fact like :agree:



    Did you just say Islam is more understanding than European culture? :confused:
    I didn't expect you to understand but I had to explain my religion anyway so you don't take any false ideas.

    And It's not that Islam is more understanding of the European culture but rather understanding to muslims living in Europe as some "rules" of Islam aren't exactly a must from European muslims but if they're done it's a plus. I don't expect you to get that either though.
     

    JBF

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    It's because you can't tell how long the animal has been dead and so you may get sick from eating it unless you have some sort of slaughter system.
    We've some sort of slaughter system actually and no it's not about the time period for how long the animal has been dead as even if you happened to see it die in front of your eyes, we're not allowed to eat it unless we're going through some special circumstances where we'll die from hunger if we won't then we're allowed to.

    You can't eat dead animals? So you have to eat them alive? That sounds like it would be very difficult.. what if it escapes?
    Since you're all of the sudden the Islam expert here, may you explain why dead animals' meat is also prohibited in Islam? As you well know :)howler) any dead animals' meat ,even if it was for a lamp, for example is prohibited unless it was in fact slaughtered for the sake of eating it.

    Is it because of an old Arab Zombie myth?
    You missed that little bit there.
     

    IrishZebra

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    I didn't expect you to understand but I had to explain my religion anyway so you don't take any false ideas.

    And It's not that Islam is more understanding of the European culture but rather understanding to muslims living in Europe as some "rules" of Islam aren't exactly a must from European muslims but if they're done it's a plus. I don't expect you to get that either though.
    I understand completely, you believe that the words written by Muhammad are the direct, infallible guidelines for life from Allah, of which Muhammad was just a conduit of messenger.

    Am I close? Because if that's not it then please enlighten me. You see I understand what your beliefs are, I just can't comprehend why you believe it.


    Sorry, I though you meant : Islam is a more tolerant culture than Europe in general.
     

    IrishZebra

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    We've some sort of slaughter system actually and no it's not about the time period for how long the animal has been dead as even if you happened to see it die in front of your eyes, we're not allowed to eat it unless we're going through some special circumstances where we'll die from hunger if we won't then we're allowed to.
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    I like my interpretation better.
     

    JBF

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    I understand completely, you believe that the words written by Muhammad are the direct, infallible guidelines for life from Allah, of which Muhammad was just a conduit of messenger.

    Am I close? Because if that's not it then please enlighten me. You see I understand what your beliefs are, I just can't comprehend why you believe it.


    Sorry, I though you meant : Islam is a more tolerant culture than Europe in general.
    No you got that right Dan. Just a simple question here, Did you know that Muhammed was in fact illiterate as in unable to both read and write? Even till his death he was just that.

    I like my interpretation better.
    Ofcourse you do.
     

    Enron

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    You can't eat dead animals? So you have to eat them alive? That sounds like it would be very difficult.. what if it escapes?
    No. Islam just doesn't dig on road kill. You're only allowed to eat things you've personally killed. Judaism has similar rules as well. It's pretty much God's endorsement of Subway, you "eat fresh" and all that.
     

    mikhail

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    No. Islam just doesn't dig on road kill. You're only allowed to eat things you've personally killed. Judaism has similar rules as well. It's pretty much God's endorsement of Subway, you "eat fresh" and all that.
    Man, I could go for a sub right now.

    EDIT: I have located the only Subway in the city (well, actually there's another one, but it's two buses away) and now know what I'm eating on Saturday.

    Thanks Aaron.
     

    IrishZebra

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    No you got that right Dan. Just a simple question here, Did you know that Muhammed was in fact illiterate as in unable to both read and write? Even till his death he was just that.


    Ofcourse you do.
    So he dictated the entire Qur'an? So it is in fact 3rd hand information? he got somebody else to write it?


    Well yeah, I like my idea of Muhammad walking alone with some dudes and they see like a cow, and one guy tries to eat it but Muhammad is like " dude eeeww that against gods will" and the other dude is all like :cry:

    You're way doesn't have a cool backstory.
     
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    Martin

    Martin

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    No. Islam just doesn't dig on road kill. You're only allowed to eat things you've personally killed. Judaism has similar rules as well. It's pretty much God's endorsement of Subway, you "eat fresh" and all that.
    Personally? You mean someone signed off on the kill and you sign the papers. Noone goes around killing animals 3 meals a day.
     

    Enron

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    How is that "personally"? You mean as in "I personally purchased food from the supermarket"?
    You're going to play literal thing with me? You're better than this.:D

    Of course people don't personally kill their own food these days (well I'm sure some do). They have kosher and halal specialists do it for them and then stamp* on the kosher/halal stamp of approval so people can eat according to their religion and still have the convenience of shopping in grocery stores.


    *Does not denote a literal stamp being placed on meat.
     
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    Martin

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    You're going to play literal thing with me? You're better than this.:D

    Of course people don't personally kill their own food these days (well I'm sure some do). They have kosher and halal specialists do it for them and then stamp* on the kosher/halal stamp of approval so people can eat according to their religion and still have the convenience of shopping in grocery stores.


    *Does not denote a literal stamp being placed on meat.
    Sounds like a complete and utter perversion of the intension behind the rule. :stuckup:
     

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