You're going to hell if you __________ (8 Viewers)

Apr 12, 2004
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No more than you are.

To answer your question. People's knowledge of bacteria aka germs was virtually nil before Hyppocrates came around.

Hyppocrates is known as the father of medicine. He discovered that people became sick when they remained unclean. He knew that uncleanliness lead you do become ill, and that very small entities were responsible for illness. Hence, the "discovery" of bacteria.

http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/Museum/hippoc.html Plenty of sources on this one.
Hence the reasoning doctors take the Hippocratic Oath.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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I don't see why you would have to resort to insults. I would expect you come with some valid arguments and that we could discuss it civilized. I don't need your threats :D It's entirely up to you whether you read it or not.
I don't think he's afraid he'd "resort" to insults. But rather, the very act of criticizing a holy book upon which one's religious devotion is founded is bound to ruffle some feathers whether intentional or not.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Problem for Martin is that he's been berated with it for so long, it's not going to be an enjoyable experience. Even among believers, few could open Genesis and start out thinking, "I'm sure that's exactly how things happened. Of course it must be true and my faith is resolute!"

IMO. it would be better start only without the determination to dismiss it as bunk ... i.e., when you're stuck in a Louisiana hotel room during a hurricane with no other reading material for a few days.
I like to think that *cough cough* I can judge something with a relatively open mind if I want to.

Question is is it good reading?
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
You know Ze, you encourage me to read the koran but I don't think you'd be pleased to hear what I would have to say about it (just my gut feeling). I also don't think it would be in very good taste to do a thorough bashing of it.

That is to say, unless I did find it to make an air tight case, which one doubts. We've seen already that Alen has plenty of doubts about it, I doubt I would be less skeptical.
Hey! Hey! Don't even think about it, if we lose you to "the other side", then we non-believers are fucked without you in our side here :scared:
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
75,661
Problem for Martin is that he's been berated with it for so long, it's not going to be an enjoyable experience. Even among believers, few could open Genesis and start out thinking, "I'm sure that's exactly how things happened. Of course it must be true and my faith is resolute!"

IMO. it would be better start only without the determination to dismiss it as bunk ... i.e., when you're stuck in a Louisiana hotel room during a hurricane with no other reading material for a few days.
Or take a class that examines the books from a non-spiritual outlook. Read them as poetry or something.

But Martin has tough skin, he should be used to the disdain by now.:D
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
ßüякε;1890930 said:
Okay, so we've found that he means copper, which was used hundreds, if not thousands, of years before the Quo'ran.....
what was he trying to say with "copper"?
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Or take a class that examines the books from a non-spiritual outlook. Read them as poetry or something.

But Martin has tough skin, he should be used to the disdain by now.:D
Why are you on my team now? I thought we were arch enemies? :D Anyway, warm and cozy feelings :coffee:
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
84,754
Well that's a mind f#%$. Here we get "And when the heaven is rent asunder, and becomes red like red hide",

to which Someone calls a red rose instead of a red hide:

Will you beleive that it has been described in the Quran which is more than 1400 years as a red rose?
Which includes his attachment of a photo of the Cat's Eye Nebula, which he says is a red rose.

But then we find out that the Cat's Eye Nebula isn't even red, it's actually green:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6975961.stm

:confused2
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
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Dec 10, 2004
29,281
No more than you are.

To answer your question. People's knowledge of bacteria aka germs was virtually nil before Hyppocrates came around.

Hyppocrates is known as the father of medicine. He discovered that people became sick when they remained unclean. He knew that uncleanliness lead you do become ill, and that very small entities were responsible for illness. Hence, the "discovery" of bacteria.

http://www.sjsu.edu/depts/Museum/hippoc.html Plenty of sources on this one.
This doesn't show that he knew about bacteria. It actually says that he made observations based on how people got sick and recovered. In other words he figured out certain patterns which seemed to help people get well.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Looks like my bad, guys. The log shows me closing it, but I never attempted to do such a thing. :confused:

Me thinks I hit a stray checkbox with a previous submit...
 

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