You're going to hell if you __________ (8 Viewers)
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You have us all figured out huh?
There is a box Martin, the mystery that we don't know what is there in it, which is where are we going after we die. Are we going somewhere or we just die and don't function (nice word eh
) anymore. Don't tell me that there are no mysteries in this world. Don't tell me that you fully understand the time, how it started..
That's fine
The Quran is considered a miracle by itself because of the scientific facts mentioned in it
Do you think PPL will just believe anyone claiming that he is a God messenger to them without proving it first?
Quran is not only about tales as you think so
There are a lot of undisputed scientific facts which some of has been scientifically proved over the last few years
Quran is more than 1400 years old
and the interesting part of it is the amount of the facts get proved day by day since that time
I can give you few examples if u r interested
God doesnt want you to beleive in his existance just because he said so
but instead he is inviting you to read, learn and think about it first and then its your choice to beleive or not
The Quran is considered a miracle by itself because of the scientific facts mentioned in it
Do you think PPL will just believe anyone claiming that he is a God messenger to them without proving it first?
Quran is not only about tales as you think so
There are a lot of undisputed scientific facts which some of has been scientifically proved over the last few years
Quran is more than 1400 years old
and the interesting part of it is the amount of the facts get proved day by day since that time
I can give you few examples if u r interested
God doesnt want you to beleive in his existance just because he said so
but instead he is inviting you to read, learn and think about it first and then its your choice to beleive or not
The fact that something is written in the book that happens to be true is not proof of science, merely conjecture. I can make guesses that turn out to be true, that doesn't mean I've proven anything by scientific standards.
Science is NOT just the conclusion, it's just as much the process and the observations that lead up to it.
Fine, go ahead.
The first time (age 14) I actually seriously thought about the question of whether there is a god or not I immediately reached the conclusion that of course there isn't. I also stopped going to church immediately.
Science is NOT just the conclusion, it's just as much the process and the observations that lead up to it.
Fine, go ahead.
The first time (age 14) I actually seriously thought about the question of whether there is a god or not I immediately reached the conclusion that of course there isn't. I also stopped going to church immediately.
In the age of 14 years old only you reached the conclusion that of course there is no God!!!!
That's what i told you earlier
Its not like asking yourself , is he there or not?
Because there is a fact that you will never be able to see or even imagine God
and that's why you chose not to believe in his existence just because you couldn't see or imaging him because you were 14 years only and the only way to make you beleive in something that time in that age is by leting you see or even imagine it becasue scintific conclusions would never work at that age
His existence is proved by that scientific facts
so he is asking you to reach the fact that he is existed by conclusions
not any conclusions, but those of very solid undisputed scientific evidences
As i told you before
its not up to us to just say "well i thought about it for few mins or days and reached the fact that there is no god"
Its about giving yourself the chance to reach it by following the way you think it is the most appropriate to reach the final conclusion
i am telling you this because for a boy of 14 years old only its difficult to go through it thoroughly and give it what it needs of time and intellectual preparations
Before giving you the examples, just wanna make sure that you know what so called the "Embryology"?
If so, would you pals tell me the development stages "outlines will be enough"
and tell me when was it discovered first?
then will come back to u
That's what i told you earlier
Its not like asking yourself , is he there or not?
Because there is a fact that you will never be able to see or even imagine God
and that's why you chose not to believe in his existence just because you couldn't see or imaging him because you were 14 years only and the only way to make you beleive in something that time in that age is by leting you see or even imagine it becasue scintific conclusions would never work at that age
His existence is proved by that scientific facts
so he is asking you to reach the fact that he is existed by conclusions
not any conclusions, but those of very solid undisputed scientific evidences
As i told you before
its not up to us to just say "well i thought about it for few mins or days and reached the fact that there is no god"
Its about giving yourself the chance to reach it by following the way you think it is the most appropriate to reach the final conclusion
i am telling you this because for a boy of 14 years old only its difficult to go through it thoroughly and give it what it needs of time and intellectual preparations
Before giving you the examples, just wanna make sure that you know what so called the "Embryology"?
If so, would you pals tell me the development stages "outlines will be enough"
and tell me when was it discovered first?
then will come back to u
The discussion between believer and unbilievers is a never ending one. The perception of things of this two groups is on a totally different level. The belivers speak from their souls (cause even we dont know for sure that God exists, cause we have never seen him before) and the unbilievers speak from their mouths, eyes and ears. Just like the believers they are also not sure if God exists. They think they are but how can they be when there is no proof of his (un)existance? You can say this was off-topic but i had a point i wanted to share. And the point is believers and unbilievers are not on the same friquency at all. The first dont need proof, they believe in God because they choose to and the others need to see or hear something in order to believe. So you see, no one can blame no one. We (you) can(must) just accept the fact that there will always be differences. It is for everyone to just wait and find out who was right and who was wrong.
Peace to you all.
Peace to you all.