Xavi has been named the best player (6 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

its not about showing off it's about subtlety, but the fact is Xavi is a support player at best, cant take over games cant impose himself in the midfield hence me doubting him being a "footballer"

I don't know Latin, so don't bother using it.

As for the rest... fine. But Xavi is better than what you give him credit for, and nobody on this podunk forum has the talent he has at passing the ball. Perhaps he's not world class, but he's damn good and the fact he won this award proves that he has some ability if we want to talk about FACTS here.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

Fact: he won a meaningless award by a body associated with the same people who rank england 8th team on the planet; that's your fact. But it's all good different people value different things in a player i just dont see anything special about Xavi.

 

[Bjerknes]

Fact: he won a meaningless award by a body associated with the same people who rank england 8th team on the planet; that's your fact. But it's all good different people value different things in a player i just dont see anything special about Xavi.

How do you rate Xabi Alonso? Higher than Xavi?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

How do you rate Xabi Alonso? Higher than Xavi?

no doubt, commanding presence the guy was made for big occasions. Some players just dont choke and Alonso is one of them. Health is a different issue of course.

 

[Bjerknes]

I rate Xavi better at some things and Xabi Alonso better at others. In terms of nerves perhaps Xavi is more steel-like, but I don't know.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/tournament/statistics/players/typestat=PAS/index.html

Check statistics you morons to see how bad Xavi is.

Total passes completion %

Xavi Hernández 90%

Long passes completion %

Xavi Hernández 84%

Medium passes completion %

Xavi Hernández 91%

Short passes completion %

Xavi Hernández 91%

 

[Bjerknes]

Statistics sometimes lie, but then again those stats are pretty damn good for someone who can only "spray the ball out wide."

 

[GordoDeCentral]

http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/tournament/statistics/players/typestat=PAS/index.html

Check statistics you morons to see how bad Xavi is.

Total passes completion %

Xavi Hernández 90%

Long passes completion %

Xavi Hernández 84%

Medium passes completion %

Xavi Hernández 91%

Short passes completion %

Xavi Hernández 91%

good to know since Xabi had as many passes as Cesc who started one game, mmh lack of impact? oh wait yeah you re right you cant gauge that out of stats. But nice attempt at trying to be funny.

 

[Durden]

Seriously this is getting ridiculous. Xavi is a world class player. You can't compare him to De Rossi or Fabregas since they are have different characteristics and different roles. He isn’t a player you notice as much at Barca like Deco or Iniesta but he coves his role perfect at Barca and the national team. Besides he played a great game against Germany and made the assist for Torres. Fabregas was a ghost in that game, so he also showed character when it counts. You might like another type of player but that dosn't change the fact that Xavi is one of the best midfielders around.

 

[Bjerknes]

Seriously this is getting ridiculous. Xavi is a world class player. You can't compare him to De Rossi or Fabregas since they are have different characteristics and different roles. He isn’t a player you notice as much at Barca like Deco or Iniesta but he coves his role perfect at Barca and the national team. Besides he played a great game against Germany and made the assist for Torres. Fabregas was a ghost in that game, so he also showed character when it counts. You might like another type of player but that dosn't change the fact that Xavi is one of the best midfielders around.

Agreed.

 

[Enron]

I rate Xavi better at some things and Xabi Alonso better at others. In terms of nerves perhaps Xavi is more steel-like, but I don't know.

Well to help your steel argument. Xabi took Liverpool penalties until his injury last season. Gerrard was second choice in PKs, if that tells you anything.

 

[Bjerknes]

Well to help your steel argument. Xabi took Liverpool penalties until his injury last season. Gerrard was second choice in PKs, if that tells you anything.

Oh yeah that's right. Good call.

I still personally believe Xavi is the better player with the ball at his feet.

 

[Osman]

Xabi isnt a dribbler or that comfortable being challenged while in controll of the ball, so yeah Xavi is better with the ball in terms of dribbling, holding on to it etc.

 

[Bjerknes]

Xabi isnt a dribbler or that comfortable being challenged while in controll of the ball, so yeah Xavi is better with the ball in terms of dribbling, holding on to it etc.

And passing IMO.

 

[Enron]

And passing IMO.

Though I don't know if there is anyone in the world better than Xabi Alonso at the one touch pass.

 

[Enron]

Xabi isnt a dribbler or that comfortable being challenged while in controll of the ball, so yeah Xavi is better with the ball in terms of dribbling, holding on to it etc.

It all depends on what you mean by comfortable. If comfortable means willing to take opponents one v one and make plays off the dribble, then no Xabi isn't comfortable on the ball.

But if comfortable means the ability to hold onto the ball long enough to make a positive pass and not lose it to the opponent under pressure then one could say that Xabi is indeed comfortable on the ball.

 

[Bjerknes]

Though I don't know if there is anyone in the world better than Xabi Alonso at the one touch pass.

Oh yeah he is sick at that for sure. Better than Xavi there.

 

[Enron]

Oh yeah he is sick at that for sure. Better than Xavi there.

They are totally different players. It's pointless to compare the two. Hell Fabregas is closer in style to Xavi than Xabi and even then its not very close.

 

[Bjerknes]

They are totally different players. It's pointless to compare the two. Hell Fabregas is closer in style to Xavi than Xabi and even then its not very close.

They are similar in regards to their role within their respective clubs. They both have the task of being the quarterback, placing the ball around the pitch neatly. Xabi and Xavi (Dos Equis) are both slick passers and have great vision and creativity, so I think they're similar players.

 

[Seven]

nah, i have no doubt he wont start at juve, in italy you get a second to make a decision in midfield he couldnt even do it with 5 in spain

Agreed.

He made the assist for Torres' goal against Germany..

THAT was not an assist. That was a very mediocre pass at best. It's only because Fernando Torres is so brilliant it suddenly became an assist. Very, very poor pass and it doesn't help your argument at all.

Do you think Xabi Alonso is better than Xavi?



It's not about lights or whatever that is. I've watched these players for years. I don't agree that De Rossi is the better passer, that's for sure. Maybe he has better vision and is better at being overrated.




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I think Xabi Alonso is a lot better yes and I think he could do well at Juventus. In fact Xabi Alonso is an extremely underrated player IMHO. Xavi would not start at Juventus, Andy. He's right, Xavi needs at least five seconds to decide and he just wouldn't get that much time. The only reason Xavi is half decent is the squad behind him.

As for your argument that we always blast Barcelona players.. Well, that's not true. At least not in my case. In fact it might be the very first Barca player I blast. I always liked Puyol, never doubted Ronaldinho's class and I wouldn't even dare say anything negative about Messi. Xavi on the other hand is mediocre at best.