Xavi has been named the best player (6 Viewers)

[Seven]

Too bad Italy's midfield was practically retarded the whole tournament. Might as well just send a bunch of retards out there for the Azzurri.

Xavi is a fantastic player.

Oh please. Knock it off. The Azzurri didn't win. We saw they didn't. Guess what, they won the World Cup. Too bad, loser.

Xavi is not a fantastic player. He is in fact a quite poor player. It's just that everyone around him (except Iniesta, who's arguably even worse) is simply fantastic. All Xavi does is pass the ball wide. And don't tell me that was a great assist he provided for Torres last night. It was actually an awful pass Torres miraculously turned into a good one.

Fabregas on the other hand is brilliant. Without him Spain were struggling against Russia, with him Spain destroyed them. Fabregas adds speed, depth and football intellect. Xavi adds nothing. Ridiculous choice.

 

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[Bjerknes]

You guess what: The Azzurri sucks and you're just jealous about it. Xavi is a fantastic player and if he was Italian he would start and you'd praise him.

PS - Aquilani will never be as a good as Xavi.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Nor will De Rossi.

 

[Seven]

You guess what: The Azzurri sucks and you're just jealous about it. Xavi is a fantastic player and if he was Italian he would start and you'd praise him.

PS - Aquilani will never be as a good as Xavi.

Andy,

I think you're a bit of a retard. Perhaps you're frustrated because a lot of people seem to hate you these days. But, if you were paying attention, you would have noticed that I think Xavi is a mediocre player and that a brilliant Fabregas should have played more instead. Besides that I also said Xavi was surrounded by fantastic players.

Let's not divert the argument. Xavi sucks and you know it. You might want to provide a football argument next time as well. 2006 still makes you sick it seems. Well, get over it. The Italians are world champions.


PS: De Rossi's already better.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Welcome to the land of ad hominem.

 

[Seven]

Welcome to the land of ad hominem.

Don't act as if I started ad hominem attacks. I gave Andy a perfectly sound argument as to why Xavi blows and Fabregas should play instead, but he decides to insult the Azzurri. God knows why, he knows it's going to backfire.

 

[Bjerknes]

Andy,

I think you're a bit of a retard. Perhaps you're frustrated because a lot of people seem to hate you these days. But, if you were paying attention, you would have noticed that I think Xavi is a mediocre player and that a brilliant Fabregas should have played more instead. Besides that I also said Xavi was surrounded by fantastic players.

Let's not divert the argument. Xavi sucks and you know it. You might want to provide a football argument next time as well. 2006 still makes you sick it seems. Well, get over it. The Italians are world champions.


PS: De Rossi's already better.

It doesn't matter. Spain did well with Xavi as their leader in midfield... and they owned the tournament.

That's all that matters. Plus he won the best player award - okay, he may not be the best player in Europe, but he IS a great player.

Like I said, this unfounded criticism of Xavi is just bias. You know better than this, Andries.

 

[Bjerknes]

Don't act as if I started ad hominem attacks. I gave Andy a perfectly sound argument as to why Xavi blows and Fabregas should play instead, but he decides to insult the Azzurri. God knows why, he knows it's going to backfire.

It's just because you're an Azzurri fan and you're angry the award didn't go to Buffon or something. That sums up this stuff.

 

[Seven]

It doesn't matter. Spain did well with Xavi as their leader in midfield... and they owned the tournament.

That's all that matters. Plus he won the best player award - okay, he may not be the best player in Europe, but he IS a great player.

Like I said, this unfounded criticism of Xavi is just bias. You know better than this, Andries.

The bias isn't coming from me. I have always disliked Xavi's game. As for Spain, no, I don't like them. But I have lots of Spanish friends, so why on earth would I pick on Xavi just because Spain won?

You on the other hand are biased. Because guess what, Fabregas plays in the Premier League.. Either way, Xavi is a quite mediocre player. Yes, Spain did well with him in the midfield, but not because of him. Exchange Xavi with any other guy who can pass a ball 5 metres and they would have done just as well.

 

[The Curr]

Chiellini was far better than most of the defenders in that squad IMO.

Also, Xavi is a great player.

 

[Seven]

It's just because you're an Azzurri fan and you're angry the award didn't go to Buffon or something. That sums up this stuff.

I actually think Senna deserved it, so that pretty much proves your little theory wrong.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Don't act as if I started ad hominem attacks. I gave Andy a perfectly sound argument as to why Xavi blows and Fabregas should play instead, but he decides to insult the Azzurri. God knows why, he knows it's going to backfire.

No, not at all, I was talking about his attack on the Azzurri and agreeing with you that he should argue what you said and not flip it to something else...

 

[Bjerknes]

The bias isn't coming from me. I have always disliked Xavi's game. As for Spain, no, I don't like them. But I have lots of Spanish friends, so why on earth would I pick on Xavi just because Spain won?

You on the other hand are biased. Because guess what, Fabregas plays in the Premier League.. Either way, Xavi is a quite mediocre player. Yes, Spain did well with him in the midfield, but not because of him. Exchange Xavi with any other guy who can pass a ball 5 metres and they would have done just as well.

But I agree that Fabregas is the better player OVERALL! And yeah, he should have always started, but Xavi should have started the entire tournament, which he did. And you know what? Starting him proved to be a good decision.

What he's better at than Cesc is the pure ability to create killer passes. With Xavi's vision and creativity, he would provide any team with better fluidity in attack.

Saying Xavi is a mediocre player is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

 

[swag]

Deco should have been on that list. He was more instrumental for Portugal than Ronaldo ever was.

And you can't blame the guy for dufus teammates like Paulo Ferreira and Ricardo for talking walks on free kicks.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Xavi is not a fantastic player. He is in fact a quite poor player. It's just that everyone around him (except Iniesta, who's arguably even worse) is simply fantastic. All Xavi does is pass the ball wide. And don't tell me that was a great assist he provided for Torres last night. It was actually an awful pass Torres miraculously turned into a good one.

Fabregas on the other hand is brilliant. Without him Spain were struggling against Russia, with him Spain destroyed them. Fabregas adds speed, depth and football intellect. Xavi adds nothing. Ridiculous choice.

excellent assessment except for Iniesta which kinda makes me doubt your(and de facto my) sanity

 

[Seven]

excellent assessment except for Iniesta which kinda makes me doubt your(and de facto my) sanity

Iniesta has his days. That's the difference with Xavi.

 

[Bjerknes]

Why is Xavi an average player again?

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Xavi is twice the player Aquilani will ever be.

 

[Bjerknes]

Xavi is twice the player Aquilani will ever be.

Agreed.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Iniesta has his days. That's the difference with Xavi.

i think iniesta is quite consistent actually, Xavi just doesnt cut it for me not a real "footballer" imo