What if... Cassano had gone to Barcelona instead? (5 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Hm, I wonder if those who are calling Cassano a flop or whatever bullshit are the same ones oohing over Palladino because of his goal yesterday.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

ahem it's palladingo around here

 

[Azzurri7]

I agree, why would you not want him Rab? as for a quality side that is unquestionable and nobody can deny he has that. So what is it that makes people dislike him?

Many reasons. I'll give you three

1- If he comes, then we might wave a goodbye for Giovinco, a player that is worth a lot more than Cassano TBH. They both play almost same position and I wont think twice about picking one of them.

2- Football technical point of view, he's one lazy player, I don't care how talented he can be, I don't like lazy players, I'm into hardwork players and Cassano isn't a hardwork player.

3- His attitude that I don't trust.

Just to get us on the same page.

I am talking about last season, to be precise the 2008-2009 season. Cassano was superior to DP in the Serie A in that season. Actually the only attacker who was probably better than him was Zlatan.

Also i distinctly remember DP being virtually invisble in both Inter games. I remember the Milan game at the San Siro at the end of last season, i don't think DP played in that one. You can refresh my memory about the first leg in Turin, and about the Roma games, i cannot remember those to be honest. He was however majestic against Real in both legs.

Again, so that we are on the same page. I am not comparing both players abilities nor am i comparing their achievments. But i think the Cassano of 2008 and 2009 is superior to the DP of the same time period.

Del Piero was far from being invisible vs Inter, specially when we played away to them, against Milan he scored and put in one wonderful performance, against Roma he scored that 30m Freekick to seal us the win not to mention vs Napoli and some powerful mid table teams.

Yet no one has answered my question, can someone give me a statistics for Cassano's assists or goals vs Juventus, Inter, Milan, Roma, Lazio last season?

 

[Azzurri7]

Sampdoria 1-1 Inter Cassano scored
Sampdoria 3-3 Juventus Cassano scored
Sampdoria 2-1 Milan Cassano scored
Sampdoria 3-0 Inter Cassano scored

Sampdoria 2-1 Milan Cassano assisted Pazzini
Sampdoria 3-3 Juventus Cassano assisted Montella

From a youtube search.

Those are from last season? I doubt it. I remember his assist vs us others are from last season?

 

[Snoop]

I'm aware of that.

Still, Del Piero is the guy who was our best player, topscorer, top assistman even in 2008/09.
I know it's smart to think about the future and in the future, near or more distant, Cassano will surely be better than Del Piero, but Alessandro Del Piero is not someone you can get rid of easily while he's still producing the goods, just so you can replace him with someone who'll be better in the future and who might be better now.
I say "might be better now" because performance wise Cassano might be a litle better right now but Del Piero plays for Juve all his life while with Cassano you don't know what to expect in Juve.

I used to think like this all the time, and I still admire Cassano and all but, it's too late. Cassano is not young anymore, remember when we replaced Baggio? we replaced him with a 19 year old talented kid. I might be wrong thou, was he older? What I am saying if we want to plan for the "future", we need someone as young as Jovetic, or maximum 23-24 years old player. Our attackers are already old farts, I don't want us to become like Milan.

I was against the Amauri deal for this reason when we signed him, not that I doubt his talent, but for the same reason I don't want Cassano anymore..

 

[Salvo]

wow wait wait wait

your not honestly saying cassano will be better than alex?

cassano isnt better than alex now IMO hes not going to improve much either
he isnt a young player now, cassano that is

alex is one of the most talented footballers ive ever seen, he is magic.

cassano is talented but he cant do what alex did and does now, no way

 

[icemaη]

Sampdoria 1-1 Inter Cassano scored
Sampdoria 3-3 Juventus Cassano scored
Sampdoria 2-1 Milan Cassano scored
Sampdoria 3-0 Inter Cassano scored

Sampdoria 2-1 Milan Cassano assisted Pazzini
Sampdoria 3-3 Juventus Cassano assisted Montella

From a youtube search.

Sampdoria 1-1 Inter Del Vechio scored.
Inter 1-0 Sampdoria

Sampdoria 0-0 Juventus
Juventus 1-1 Sampdoria

Milan 3-0 Sampdoria
Sampdoria 2-1 Milan Cassano scored

Roma 2-0 Sampdoria
Sampdoria 2-2 Roma

Sampdoria 3-1 Lazio Cassano scored
Lazio 2-0 Sampdoria

I don't have the assists figures, but I guess that will be much more as Pazzini has scored quite a few against the above sides...

 

[V]

Fuck Cassano.

/thread

 

[Salvo]

there is a reason why cassano has shined at samp and not in any other of the big teams he has played for

 

[icemaη]

wow wait wait wait

your not honestly saying cassano will be better than alex?

cassano isnt better than alex now IMO hes not going to improve much either
he isnt a young player now, cassano that is

alex is one of the most talented footballers ive ever seen, he is magic.

cassano is talented but he cant do what alex did and does now, no way

Just because people want him as the alex replacement doesn't mean he is better than Alex. Just because people say he had a better season than Alex last time around, also doesn't mean that they think he is better than Alex. What are our chances of getting somebody better to replace Alex? Close to nil - yes?
Giovinco is no DP, Cassano is no DP. But we can replace DP with the best available resource... Giovinco for all his brilliance cannot cut it as a SS like DP does. Cassano is the best available option. I can understand people having trouble with his attitude and his temper. But his footballing brilliance is undeniable...
Another option will be to stick with the formation we are playing now and nullify the need for a SS, play with one striker and there is no need for Cassano either.

 

[blondu]

that's a well spot on problem..we did changed the system once with diego's arrival...we changed it again because 4-3-1-2 doesn't work for us...we really need cassano to change the system once more? i know that the season is long and anything can happen(we might change it again if some accidents will occur)...but giving 20 mils for freakish cassano it's just too much.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

I used to think like this all the time, and I still admire Cassano and all but, it's too late. Cassano is not young anymore, remember when we replaced Baggio? we replaced him with a 19 year old talented kid. I might be wrong thou, was he older? What I am saying if we want to plan for the "future", we need someone as young as Jovetic, or maximum 23-24 years old player. Our attackers are already old farts, I don't want us to become like Milan.

I was against the Amauri deal for this reason when we signed him, not that I doubt his talent, but for the same reason I don't want Cassano anymore..

Right on.
Cassano had his chances at the big team in the past. He didn't take them back then, and now I feel it's too late for him to become a vital player at a top club.

3- His attitude that I don't trust.

You and me both.

People seem to forget real fast. As if he hasn't screwed up while playing for Sampdoria.

 

[Salvo]

Just because people want him as the alex replacement doesn't mean he is better than Alex. Just because people say he had a better season than Alex last time around, also doesn't mean that they think he is better than Alex. What are our chances of getting somebody better to replace Alex? Close to nil - yes?
Giovinco is no DP, Cassano is no DP. But we can replace DP with the best available resource... Giovinco for all his brilliance cannot cut it as a SS like DP does. Cassano is the best available option. I can understand people having trouble with his attitude and his temper. But his footballing brilliance is undeniable...
Another option will be to stick with the formation we are playing now and nullify the need for a SS, play with one striker and there is no need for Cassano either.

exactly, we dont need to play 2 strikers, given the strikers we have its smarter to buy 2 strikers. the lack of ss going around plays a part in this as well

i think the
4-3-2-1 or the 4-2-3-1 is the future

and about cassano being better than alex, i was just replying to what alen said, where he did say that

 

[DelpieroForLife]

What if Cassano had gone to United or Milan instead?

The answer is simple to all these questions.... who give a fucking fuck!

 

[blondu]

People seem to forget real fast. As if he hasn't screwed up while playing for Sampdoria.

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good find man....the people who defend the brand new changed cassano should see this.

 

[Salvatore]

Those are from last season? I doubt it. I remember his assist vs us others are from last season?

These are since he joined Sampdoria in 07/08.

Sampdoria 1-1 Inter Del Vechio scored.
Inter 1-0 Sampdoria

Sampdoria 0-0 Juventus
Juventus 1-1 Sampdoria assist

Milan 3-0 Sampdoria
Sampdoria 2-1 Milan Cassano scored assist

Roma 2-0 Sampdoria
Sampdoria 2-2 Roma assist

Sampdoria 3-1 Lazio Cassano scored
Lazio 2-0 Sampdoria

I don't have the assists figures, but I guess that will be much more as Pazzini has scored quite a few against the above sides...

I went back two seasons to the 07/08 home fixture against Inter (matchday 24) so got the one in which Cassano scored.

I put in the assists in your post.

 

[Ahmed]

He has done none of that at Sampdoria.

exactly, from what I've read and heard the Samp fans adore him

good find man....the people who defend the brand new changed cassano should see this.

that was an incident early on in his Sampdoria career, he has been relatively disciplined since then...and like I've said before, talent is above everything...we need a flair player who can change the game

 

[Elvin]

exactly, from what I've read and heard the Samp fans adore him



that was an incident early on in his Sampdoria career, he has been relatively disciplined since then...and like I've said before, talent is above everything...we need a flair player who can change the game

Yea, ask Milan fans if they agree with you *cough* Ronaldinho *cough*

 

[blondu]

that was an incident early on in his Sampdoria career, he has been relatively disciplined since then...and like I've said before, talent is above everything...we need a flair player who can change the game

i'm not agreeing with you here...as elvin said..why not go for the brazilians then? heck, ronnie is more talented that all the midfielders in serie a.

 

[Alen]

Yet no one has answered my question, can someone give me a statistics for Cassano's assists or goals vs Juventus, Inter, Milan, Roma, Lazio last season?

Sampdoria-Juventus 0:0
Juventus-Sampdoria 1:1 (Cassano assist)

Sampdoria-Inter 1:1 (no goal or assist, but he was the Man of the Match by far, because he literally destroyed Inter's defense on that match.)
Inter-Sampdoria 1:0
Sampdoria-Inter 3:0 in Coppa Italia (Cassano scored one, a great lob, and created the third one, even though it won't be counted as an assist because an Inter player touched the ball last, before Pazzini scored. He was the man of the match again)
Inter-Sampdoria 1:0 in Coppa

Milan-Sampdoria 3:0
Sampdoria-Milan 2:1 (Cassano scored and assist)


Lazio-Sampdoria 2:0
Sampdoria-Lazio 3:1 (Cassano scored...fantastic goal)
Lazio-Sampdoria 1:1 coppa final

Sampdoria-Roma 2:2 (Cassano assist)
Roma-Sampdoria 2:0

3 goals and 3 assists, but what's just as important is his involvement in almost all the goals. He starts the action with a killer pass and many times the action results with a goal, even though technically he's not getting an assist for that. Like Diego against Sampdoria on Wednesday. Diego didn't score and didn't get an assist, but he was instrumental in many of the 5 goals we scored.
I checked all the goals on these matches i mentioned above, and even when he's not getting an assist or a goal, he created the goal in most of the cases.

Anyway, I don't understand why do you think he's not showing against the big teams. He scored and assisted a lot against the big teams even when he was at Roma.

Oh, and Cassano scored 3 and assisted 3 more against Juve, Roma, Milan, Inter and Lazio.

Small comparison with our players against Sampdoria, Roma, Milan, Inter and Lazio:
Del Piero 3 goals (Roma, Milan penalty and Lazio coppa) and 3 assists (Roma, Milan, Roma)
Amauri 3 goals (Milan twice and Sampdoria) 0 assists