[WC] Italia vs USA [17-06-2006] (5 Viewers)
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But we DID NOT deserve to be playing with nine men. Is that so hard to understand? Our skill level is not up to par with Italy, so of course we will have to play rough to beat them and throw them off their game. I thought you would understand such a notion, but I've seen you complain about hard tackles before, so you're not much Roy Keane, aren't you.
And once again you telling me its our own fault after these refereeing mistakes is hypocritical. FFS Andries, you've been complaining for four years running. Don't make it so obvious you're an absolute hypocrite.
And again, childish behavior is Totti spitting at an opponent, or De Rossi elbowing an opponent in the face. Seriously, you're the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen.
And once again you telling me its our own fault after these refereeing mistakes is hypocritical. FFS Andries, you've been complaining for four years running. Don't make it so obvious you're an absolute hypocrite.
And again, childish behavior is Totti spitting at an opponent, or De Rossi elbowing an opponent in the face. Seriously, you're the biggest hypocrite I have ever seen.
Pope's expulsion was more than just. And don't forget, it isn't one or two players who represent one team. De Rossi is still a romano di merda. And to be honest, "rough" is an understatement for the way you were playing us. What is "childish" is accusing the referees of being influenced by Italy's power. Awww, poor little USA, a minute country often harassed by us larger Europeans. OKAY. If the refereeing was with us we probably wouldn't have had a red card in the first 10 minutes. I THINK.
Was it an awful ref? Absolutely. Were the three red cards deserved? Yes. Stop complaining about the ref when the other team is denied a penalty in the last minutes of the game FFS. Don't you see you got away lucky?
About Mastroeni's red card I felt it was harsh as such an offense doesn't always warrant a red card, but in my humble opinion it in fact should. Pirlo's ankle could have been broken with that kind of challenge.
As for you saying I'm not much of a Roy Keane I would disagree. You obviously think I'm the kind of player that goes down all the time and complains to the referee, but in fact I'm very much not. That I complain about the extremely low standard of refereeing in the World Cup and that I say they created a grey zone in which they can fix games is however only logical. That doesn't mean I complain when I'm playing though.
I don't even support Totti and De Rossi. Quit making things up. Giving away such a huge advantage and even turning it into a disadvantage like the USA did is plain stupid and childish. You'd have to be a moron not to notice. Italy 13 fouls, the USA 24. That's all there is to say about this.
About Mastroeni's red card I felt it was harsh as such an offense doesn't always warrant a red card, but in my humble opinion it in fact should. Pirlo's ankle could have been broken with that kind of challenge.
As for you saying I'm not much of a Roy Keane I would disagree. You obviously think I'm the kind of player that goes down all the time and complains to the referee, but in fact I'm very much not. That I complain about the extremely low standard of refereeing in the World Cup and that I say they created a grey zone in which they can fix games is however only logical. That doesn't mean I complain when I'm playing though.
I don't even support Totti and De Rossi. Quit making things up. Giving away such a huge advantage and even turning it into a disadvantage like the USA did is plain stupid and childish. You'd have to be a moron not to notice. Italy 13 fouls, the USA 24. That's all there is to say about this.
Buffon 6: not the one to blame on goal, he was about to give me a heart attack if that goal wasn't considered offside.
Zaccardo 4.5: no where near Azzuri material.
Cannavaro 6.5: he was nearlly alone with Nesta to cope with the American counter attacks during 2nd half he did well overall but not the game of his life for sure.
Nesta 7: on of the best on field, full confidence, made some decisive tackles a real example of a skillful defender.
Zambrotta 6.5: bad 1st half IMO most of the US danger came from his flank, in the 2nd he combined well with Alex and made some good attacking runs.
De Rossi 4: STUPID STUPID STUPID
Perrota 6: average game, his cross is absolute horrible but his work rate is still better than lazy Camo even after picking a slight enjury .
Pirlo 7.5: MOM, great vision domintae the midfield and distribute the ball very well during most parts of the game, running out of oil towards end of the mtach was his only sin.
Totti 5.5: when Lippi decide to field Gattuso my friends were sure that he will take either Gila or Toni out while I was the only one sure he will substitute Totti, regardlees of his low contribution before De Rossi's red he already picked a yellow which means a 99.99% he will spit on somone's face to earn a red in a game with such temper.
Toni 6: not even comparable to his first game he just keep falling like Domino he waste a good chance in 1st half shooting from a narrow angel instead of passing to a free Gila.
Gilardino 6.5: not much better than Toni, but with a goal in his name he deserve a slightly better ranking.
Gattuso 6.5: with a game of such temper Rino's contribution is a most, he had an overall good game.
Del Piero 7: Keller turns into Neo from Matrix to deny DP one of the best goals in the touranment, he provides the missing creativity spark during 1st half, I think he did enough to feature for one half at least in each match Italy play from now on.
Iaquinta 6: he made a lot of runs... mots of them were uselsss or offsides though.
Zaccardo 4.5: no where near Azzuri material.
Cannavaro 6.5: he was nearlly alone with Nesta to cope with the American counter attacks during 2nd half he did well overall but not the game of his life for sure.
Nesta 7: on of the best on field, full confidence, made some decisive tackles a real example of a skillful defender.
Zambrotta 6.5: bad 1st half IMO most of the US danger came from his flank, in the 2nd he combined well with Alex and made some good attacking runs.
De Rossi 4: STUPID STUPID STUPID
Perrota 6: average game, his cross is absolute horrible but his work rate is still better than lazy Camo even after picking a slight enjury .
Pirlo 7.5: MOM, great vision domintae the midfield and distribute the ball very well during most parts of the game, running out of oil towards end of the mtach was his only sin.
Totti 5.5: when Lippi decide to field Gattuso my friends were sure that he will take either Gila or Toni out while I was the only one sure he will substitute Totti, regardlees of his low contribution before De Rossi's red he already picked a yellow which means a 99.99% he will spit on somone's face to earn a red in a game with such temper.
Toni 6: not even comparable to his first game he just keep falling like Domino he waste a good chance in 1st half shooting from a narrow angel instead of passing to a free Gila.
Gilardino 6.5: not much better than Toni, but with a goal in his name he deserve a slightly better ranking.
Gattuso 6.5: with a game of such temper Rino's contribution is a most, he had an overall good game.
Del Piero 7: Keller turns into Neo from Matrix to deny DP one of the best goals in the touranment, he provides the missing creativity spark during 1st half, I think he did enough to feature for one half at least in each match Italy play from now on.
Iaquinta 6: he made a lot of runs... mots of them were uselsss or offsides though.
Pagelle: Azzurri ratings
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Daniele De Rossi was clearly the villain for the Azzurri against America, but who did shine for Italy in the chaos of the 1-1 draw?
Gigi Buffon: 6
Perhaps should have come for the cross and subsequently could only watch Zaccardo’s uninspired clearance beat him from close range. Offside McBride spared his blushes after the break.
Cristian Zaccardo: 5
Another performance which illustrated why he’s such a controversial selection given his clear mediocrity. Christian Panucci, Daniele Bonera and Massimo Oddo are all safer options…
Fabio Cannavaro: 7
Again proved to be a giant of the side despite his pint-size frame. Grit, determination and honour, Cannavaro put in another stunner against the USA.
Alessandro Nesta: 6.5
Continued from where he left off against Ghana by keeping the American forwards relatively quiet throughout the game. Made some fine last-ditch tackles.
Gianluca Zambrotta: 7
One of the few bright sparks of a dark team performance. Zambrotta was full of life all over the pitch to underline his status as a key Azzurri element. Never lets his club or country down.
Andrea Pirlo: 7
Again pulled the strings in the midfield after his exploits against Ghana in game one. An assist machine for most of the game, unfortunately only Alberto Gilardino could benefit.
Daniele De Rossi: 2
This boy has a lot to learn. His red card has arguably jeopardised the Azzurri’s progress in the competition. Clearly doesn’t yet understand the difference between aggressiveness and recklessness. A disgrace.
Simone Perrotta: 6
More was expected from him after his fine display in the opener even if he did start to impose himself as the game went on. Heroically remained on the pitch at the end despite a clear injury.
Francesco Totti: 5
Sacrificed on 34 minutes after the dismissal of De Rossi, yet Totti had done little to warrant a reprieve from that decision. Looked slow and out of place. Will he start against the Czechs?
Alberto Gilardino: 6
Scored a neat goal to give his side the lead but Italy needed more movement from the Milan man, especially when they were playing against only nine men.
Luca Toni: 5.5
Where’s Italy’s great scoring hope gone? Was rarely given a sight of goal by the USA and was roughly treated at times, yet the Azzurri need his goals and quickly…
Gennaro Gattuso: 6.5
Thrown into the mix to make Italy’s midfield a more solid unit, Gattuso was immense when you consider he’s spent the last two weeks with injury. This is the man De Rossi should learn from.
Vincenzo Iaquinta: 5.5
Given a chance to net another Azzurri winner, Iaquinta responded by constantly standing in offside positions. And when he did time his run right, his touch let him down.
Alessandro Del Piero: 6
Almost gave Italy the lead with a volleyed toe-poke and a long-ranger, but didn’t make the desire impact as a sub. Too many flicks, not enough purpose. A disappointment.
Marcello Lippi: 5.5
Arguably threw on too many strikers at the death, ignoring the problems of his narrow midfield. Yet his biggest mistake may have been his insistence on keeping faith with USA striker Zaccardo.
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Daniele De Rossi was clearly the villain for the Azzurri against America, but who did shine for Italy in the chaos of the 1-1 draw?
Gigi Buffon: 6
Perhaps should have come for the cross and subsequently could only watch Zaccardo’s uninspired clearance beat him from close range. Offside McBride spared his blushes after the break.
Cristian Zaccardo: 5
Another performance which illustrated why he’s such a controversial selection given his clear mediocrity. Christian Panucci, Daniele Bonera and Massimo Oddo are all safer options…
Fabio Cannavaro: 7
Again proved to be a giant of the side despite his pint-size frame. Grit, determination and honour, Cannavaro put in another stunner against the USA.
Alessandro Nesta: 6.5
Continued from where he left off against Ghana by keeping the American forwards relatively quiet throughout the game. Made some fine last-ditch tackles.
Gianluca Zambrotta: 7
One of the few bright sparks of a dark team performance. Zambrotta was full of life all over the pitch to underline his status as a key Azzurri element. Never lets his club or country down.
Andrea Pirlo: 7
Again pulled the strings in the midfield after his exploits against Ghana in game one. An assist machine for most of the game, unfortunately only Alberto Gilardino could benefit.
Daniele De Rossi: 2
This boy has a lot to learn. His red card has arguably jeopardised the Azzurri’s progress in the competition. Clearly doesn’t yet understand the difference between aggressiveness and recklessness. A disgrace.
Simone Perrotta: 6
More was expected from him after his fine display in the opener even if he did start to impose himself as the game went on. Heroically remained on the pitch at the end despite a clear injury.
Francesco Totti: 5
Sacrificed on 34 minutes after the dismissal of De Rossi, yet Totti had done little to warrant a reprieve from that decision. Looked slow and out of place. Will he start against the Czechs?
Alberto Gilardino: 6
Scored a neat goal to give his side the lead but Italy needed more movement from the Milan man, especially when they were playing against only nine men.
Luca Toni: 5.5
Where’s Italy’s great scoring hope gone? Was rarely given a sight of goal by the USA and was roughly treated at times, yet the Azzurri need his goals and quickly…
Gennaro Gattuso: 6.5
Thrown into the mix to make Italy’s midfield a more solid unit, Gattuso was immense when you consider he’s spent the last two weeks with injury. This is the man De Rossi should learn from.
Vincenzo Iaquinta: 5.5
Given a chance to net another Azzurri winner, Iaquinta responded by constantly standing in offside positions. And when he did time his run right, his touch let him down.
Alessandro Del Piero: 6
Almost gave Italy the lead with a volleyed toe-poke and a long-ranger, but didn’t make the desire impact as a sub. Too many flicks, not enough purpose. A disappointment.
Marcello Lippi: 5.5
Arguably threw on too many strikers at the death, ignoring the problems of his narrow midfield. Yet his biggest mistake may have been his insistence on keeping faith with USA striker Zaccardo.
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lippi has his stupidity too ! referee ruined the match but hey there were clear elbows there. Especially the one from de rossi - silly azzuri- .
Lippi needed camo to deliver quality crosses to the penalty area but didn't include him in the game.
the only good thing about this draw is that ghana can pass through this group becoz we'll have one qualified from the tie between italy-czech republic.
I remember when Morocco had the possibility to go through in WC 1998 but brazil gave the match easily to Norway even if Morocco deserves it more.
NOW , hopefully this won't happen.
FORZA AZZURI FORZA GHANA
Lippi needed camo to deliver quality crosses to the penalty area but didn't include him in the game.
the only good thing about this draw is that ghana can pass through this group becoz we'll have one qualified from the tie between italy-czech republic.
I remember when Morocco had the possibility to go through in WC 1998 but brazil gave the match easily to Norway even if Morocco deserves it more.
NOW , hopefully this won't happen.
FORZA AZZURI FORZA GHANA
this is absolute bullshit. Italia fans gave us respect before the game? MY ASS! We were literally compared to "dog shit" and told we would lose 17-0. If this is respect, then i have much more ot say about the country whose entire top division is fixed.
Go back and read where it started, the americans weren't even here until the italians started shitting on us.
Oh FFS. If it wasn't clear I was only joking when I said the US would go down 17-0 something is wrong with you. In fact I even predicted a 1-1 tie for this game in my world cup prediction. No need to say I didn't respect you. And don't talk bad like that about calcio, German, Belgian and Finnish football are just as fixed.