Mind the language Snoop.
There's a famous Einstein quote which is appropriate:
There's a famous Einstein quote which is appropriate:
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Unfortunate Ending (11 Viewers)
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I am sorry to see you go. I am a paid up member of the bashing Capello club so i may as well shut the fuck up too. But i dont ttake things personally and you were always one of the more objective posters on here. i too do not frequent Nick against the world simply cos the talk there aint about footabll and thats the only reason I come onto this forum. I would not say I share your views on elitism simply cos i don't read that much of whats said on there if its not football but Sergio is one of the nicer people on here. Vinman has his critics but he is always a laff. Some guys you didnt even mention have taken it upon themselves to give their 2 cents and thats probably 1 of the sadder aspects of what this forum has turned to. Well you are always welcome here to post and thansk for sharing your knowledge in the past
I was always a fan of the comedy bit where Eddie Izzard talks about how the British claimed India as a colony. It basically goes along the lines where the British arrive at the shores of India, they exchange words, and the British say, "Oh, by the way, do you have a flag?"
"No."
"No flag, no country. That's the rule. India is ours now, thank you."
"No."
"No flag, no country. That's the rule. India is ours now, thank you."
I don’t know where you from but do you really want to tell me that you don’t care at all about your own country? If you were - god forbid – to wake up in the morning and open the newspaper and find out your own country got invaded i.e. women/children/old men gets killed/raped/tortured wouldn’t stimulate any emotions inside you?
If to my question your answer is yes….. Then maybe we are different in the way we see the meaning of a Homeland is.
Notice that I didn’t label you or judge your country and said: people from that country have no loyalty to their own land. Or judged your family by your act because (my point) it’s not fair and you can’t judge the group(your family in that case) by the act of some members(you).
You can’t hate your own country or refuse to declare that you belong to it just because in SOME places in the world there is war. Likewise, you can’t label Juventus as “Cheaters” and say: they turned their back on decency just because of a few.
If to my question your answer is yes….. Then maybe we are different in the way we see the meaning of a Homeland is.
Notice that I didn’t label you or judge your country and said: people from that country have no loyalty to their own land. Or judged your family by your act because (my point) it’s not fair and you can’t judge the group(your family in that case) by the act of some members(you).
You can’t hate your own country or refuse to declare that you belong to it just because in SOME places in the world there is war. Likewise, you can’t label Juventus as “Cheaters” and say: they turned their back on decency just because of a few.
Every fan who leaves because Juve have turned their back on everything that they once stood for, is another reason for Juve to reform their ways.
And that makes you a better club fan than me. Congratulations.
So what? My mother is Swedish and my father English, I don't "support" either government.
If you read my first post, you'd see that I'm not leaving the club simply because of the match fixing scandal, the betting scandal, or the referee scandal (as if these weren't enough), but also because of the fact that Juve has sold it's stadium name, changed the club symbol, and sold it's shirt to the highest bidder.
I moved around the world when I was growing up. My father worked for the British Foreign Ministry.
Think a bit before posting, please…
You are a funny man.
Okay, but if blindly support the club, no matter what, then what are you really doing? I mean, it seems like you don't really care at all what happens, it would change nothing for you.
I always think the same thing, but it never works.
Thanks man, back at you. 
Thanks guys.
And that makes you a better club fan than me. Congratulations.
So what? My mother is Swedish and my father English, I don't "support" either government.
If you read my first post, you'd see that I'm not leaving the club simply because of the match fixing scandal, the betting scandal, or the referee scandal (as if these weren't enough), but also because of the fact that Juve has sold it's stadium name, changed the club symbol, and sold it's shirt to the highest bidder.
I moved around the world when I was growing up. My father worked for the British Foreign Ministry.
Think a bit before posting, please…
You are a funny man. Okay, but if blindly support the club, no matter what, then what are you really doing? I mean, it seems like you don't really care at all what happens, it would change nothing for you.
Fliakis said:
hopefully the world cup will wash these doubts away. int:
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Fliakis said:
anyway, lots of luck to you ian
albertmare said:
arrivederci da senior Ian . . 
take care
take care
even Animals would care for that
errr, no one mentioned anything like this
I don't hate "my" country and I am never ashamed that I am Armenian, I am talking about something different here, not Armenia or any other specific countries.. I am talking about the flags and lands, which are dividing people, and bringing hate between people. And It's not me who chose to be Armenian anyway (not that it is a bad thing), but why should I kill or die for a piece of land anyway?
the last part about Juventus, I guess that was directed to Ian and not me..
errr, no one mentioned anything like this
I don't hate "my" country and I am never ashamed that I am Armenian, I am talking about something different here, not Armenia or any other specific countries.. I am talking about the flags and lands, which are dividing people, and bringing hate between people. And It's not me who chose to be Armenian anyway (not that it is a bad thing), but why should I kill or die for a piece of land anyway?
the last part about Juventus, I guess that was directed to Ian and not me..
I never said once: “support your government”, I actually said the contrary. I said support your country even though it’s government might be corrupted.
Anyway, I have nothing else to say on that subject. Ian and Snoop: I understand your point of view but I completely disagree with it.
I know you all know that but let me just say: Juventus is one of the greatest clubs in Europe, was, is and always will be.
To some people what’s happening right now is a dream came true and the happy ending – for them – is to see Juve goes way down. To others – me included – It means that some irresponsible people gambled with the name of the club.
It will end with whatever the judge see fit as a punishment. If we go down, it’ll be a year or two and we’ll be back to were we belong. And soon – I know it as I know my name- we will be carrying a CL cup and maybe then I’ll come here and quote myself.
Anyway, I have nothing else to say on that subject. Ian and Snoop: I understand your point of view but I completely disagree with it.
I know you all know that but let me just say: Juventus is one of the greatest clubs in Europe, was, is and always will be.
To some people what’s happening right now is a dream came true and the happy ending – for them – is to see Juve goes way down. To others – me included – It means that some irresponsible people gambled with the name of the club.
It will end with whatever the judge see fit as a punishment. If we go down, it’ll be a year or two and we’ll be back to were we belong. And soon – I know it as I know my name- we will be carrying a CL cup and maybe then I’ll come here and quote myself.
