Tunisia on the verge of revolution (1 Viewer)
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President's speech saying he is very sorry and he has gotten the message people are sending (1) he wont run for the presidency again, (2) he will stop all forms of censorship on the press and the internet, (3) he will assign a new minister of internal affairs, (4) he will reduce the prices on the basic products of food. have I missed anything?
This is the first time I've seen an Arab Dictator beg his people to stop. (His wife and Daughter have fled the country and today there is a march to his presidential palace to take him out).
Now look at this
. My respect for the Tunisians has multiplied exponentially.
Tunisians'Plan for Today: (someone translate for the folks)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...973337_104224996294040_284363_6780 608_n.jpg
Minister of Foreign Affair's resignation Letter:
Resignation Letter
Citizens of the Republic of Tunisia, After witnessing the recent event that our country has been enduring since December17th 2010, I declare my inaptitude in pursuing my function in a serene and objective environment as intended.
I declare hereby my official resignation from my function as a minister of foreign affairs at the Tunisian government. In a last effort to assume my responsabilities, I am asking the families of the tunisian martyrs to accept my sincere condoleances and my deep regret faced to their common tragedy. I assumed the fate of the Tunisian citizens, after marrying the daughter of one of Ben Ali’s first cousins, and was a member of the family and part of their clan. I am not proud of my own family, and in an honest declaration, would be ready to be judged in court at the same time as they will be. This will be my last service to the Tunisian citizens, in hope that with my resignation, citizens of Tunisia will be more graceful towards me and my family.
I make this decision in hope for the return of rest. I relinquish the Tunisian government to express my deep affliction and my righteous anger toward the dire management of this crisis, causing hence the death of dozens of young Tunisians. I am profoundly convinced that these are not terrorist acts, but citizens exerting their right to strike against a regime who abandoned them for two decades. For this reason, I do not deem myself a member of this oppressing and manipulating government. In a last resort to save face with the international media, the government is working hard from within to portray the protesters as mindless terrorists destroying their country and refusing any peaceful discussion. The government has hired teams of their own police in civilian attire that go around ravaging the suburbs in an effort to spread doubt and disseminate the truth about the tunisian people.
I reiterate my most sincere condolences to the families of victims, not only to the ones that passed away these four past weeks, but to all the broken families by the injustice and inconveniences caused by this clan as well.
For a free Tunisia,
Kamel Morjane
This is the first time I've seen an Arab Dictator beg his people to stop. (His wife and Daughter have fled the country and today there is a march to his presidential palace to take him out).
Now look at this
. My respect for the Tunisians has multiplied exponentially.Tunisians'Plan for Today: (someone translate for the folks)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...973337_104224996294040_284363_6780 608_n.jpg
Minister of Foreign Affair's resignation Letter:
Resignation Letter
Citizens of the Republic of Tunisia, After witnessing the recent event that our country has been enduring since December17th 2010, I declare my inaptitude in pursuing my function in a serene and objective environment as intended.
I declare hereby my official resignation from my function as a minister of foreign affairs at the Tunisian government. In a last effort to assume my responsabilities, I am asking the families of the tunisian martyrs to accept my sincere condoleances and my deep regret faced to their common tragedy. I assumed the fate of the Tunisian citizens, after marrying the daughter of one of Ben Ali’s first cousins, and was a member of the family and part of their clan. I am not proud of my own family, and in an honest declaration, would be ready to be judged in court at the same time as they will be. This will be my last service to the Tunisian citizens, in hope that with my resignation, citizens of Tunisia will be more graceful towards me and my family.
I make this decision in hope for the return of rest. I relinquish the Tunisian government to express my deep affliction and my righteous anger toward the dire management of this crisis, causing hence the death of dozens of young Tunisians. I am profoundly convinced that these are not terrorist acts, but citizens exerting their right to strike against a regime who abandoned them for two decades. For this reason, I do not deem myself a member of this oppressing and manipulating government. In a last resort to save face with the international media, the government is working hard from within to portray the protesters as mindless terrorists destroying their country and refusing any peaceful discussion. The government has hired teams of their own police in civilian attire that go around ravaging the suburbs in an effort to spread doubt and disseminate the truth about the tunisian people.
I reiterate my most sincere condolences to the families of victims, not only to the ones that passed away these four past weeks, but to all the broken families by the injustice and inconveniences caused by this clan as well.
For a free Tunisia,
Kamel Morjane
its falling apart to be honest, it would take a miracle for it to be restored i just dont see how the pres and government can fix this. i also love how every one is trying to ditch the blame like its some sort of horrible virus 
i think for this to succeed the number of victims will increase to the degree the world community will start pressuring the government to just leave or the police forces realize this is costing more than its worth and stop killings.
i think for this to succeed the number of victims will increase to the degree the world community will start pressuring the government to just leave or the police forces realize this is costing more than its worth and stop killings.
reb u will love this just keep in mind that he has been in power since 1987 while u read this
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/01/2011113192110570350.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/01/2011113192110570350.html
No, I've met Karen people, Hmong, and the like. They never use the word "humiliation" with respect to what they've endured or experienced, which makes me wonder if it's a translation issue or a cultural one.
Hist may have some links for what the Egyptian police do for the people, if you want.
Tunisia's youth finally has revolution on its mind
We've become used to gossiping about the regime and feeling that we're plotting. But now we see the time to rebel has come
I am part of the new generation that has lived in Tunisia under the absolute rule of President Ben Ali.
In high school and college, we are always afraid to talk politics: "There are reporters everywhere," we are told. Nobody dares discussing politics in public; everyone is suspicious. Your neighbour, your friend, your grocer might be Ben Ali's informer: do you or your father want to be forcibly taken to an undefined place one night at 4am?
We grow up with this fear of activism; we continue studying, going out and partying, regardless of politics.
During high school, we begin to find out the intricacies of the "royal" family and hear stories here and there – about a relative of Leila [Trabelsi, the president's wife] who took control of an industry, who has appropriated the land of another person, who dealt with the Italian mafia. We talk and discuss it among ourselves – everybody is aware of what's going on, but there is no action. We quickly learn that Tunisian television is the worst television that exists. Everything is relayed to the glory of President Ben Ali, who's always shown at his best. We all know he dyes his hair black. Nobody likes his wife, who has a wooden smile: she never seemed sincere.
We do not live, but we think we do. We want to believe that all is well since we are part of the middle class, but we know that if the cafes are packed during the day, it is because the unemployed are there discussing football. The first nightclubs open their doors and we begin to go out, to drink and enjoy the nightlife around Sousse and Hammamet. Other stories are circulating – about a Trabelsi who gave someone a horrible kicking because he felt like it, or another who caused a car accident only to return home to sleep. We exchange stories, quietly, quickly. In our own way, it is a form of vengeance: by gossiping, we have the feeling we're plotting.
The police are afraid: if you tell them you're close to Ben Ali all doors open, hotels offer their best rooms, parking becomes free, traffic laws disappear.
The internet is blocked, and censored pages are referred to as pages "not found" – as if they had never existed. Schoolchildren are exchanging proxies and the word becomes cult: "You got a proxy that works?"
We all know that Leila has tried to sell a Tunisian island, that she wants to close the American school in Tunis to promote her own school – as I said, stories are circulating. Over the internet and under the desks, we exchange "La régente de Carthage" [a controversial book about the role of Leila Trabelsi and her family in Tunisia]. We love our country and we want things to change, but there is no organised movement: the tribe is willing, but the leader is missing.
The corruption, the bribes – we simply want to leave. We begin to apply to study in France, or Canada. It is cowardice, and we know it. Leaving the country to "the rest of them". We go to France and forget, then come back for the holidays. Tunisia? It is the beaches of Sousse and Hammamet, the nightclubs and restaurants. A giant ClubMed.
And then, WikiLeaks reveals what everyone was whispering. And then, a young man immolates himself. And then, 20 Tunisians are killed in one day.
And for the first time, we see the opportunity to rebel, to take revenge on the "royal" family who has taken everything, to overturn the established order that has accompanied our youth. An educated youth, which is tired and ready to sacrifice all the symbols of the former autocratic Tunisia with a new revolution: the Jasmin Revolution – the true one.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jan/13/tunisia-youth-revolution
We've become used to gossiping about the regime and feeling that we're plotting. But now we see the time to rebel has come
I am part of the new generation that has lived in Tunisia under the absolute rule of President Ben Ali.
In high school and college, we are always afraid to talk politics: "There are reporters everywhere," we are told. Nobody dares discussing politics in public; everyone is suspicious. Your neighbour, your friend, your grocer might be Ben Ali's informer: do you or your father want to be forcibly taken to an undefined place one night at 4am?
We grow up with this fear of activism; we continue studying, going out and partying, regardless of politics.
During high school, we begin to find out the intricacies of the "royal" family and hear stories here and there – about a relative of Leila [Trabelsi, the president's wife] who took control of an industry, who has appropriated the land of another person, who dealt with the Italian mafia. We talk and discuss it among ourselves – everybody is aware of what's going on, but there is no action. We quickly learn that Tunisian television is the worst television that exists. Everything is relayed to the glory of President Ben Ali, who's always shown at his best. We all know he dyes his hair black. Nobody likes his wife, who has a wooden smile: she never seemed sincere.
We do not live, but we think we do. We want to believe that all is well since we are part of the middle class, but we know that if the cafes are packed during the day, it is because the unemployed are there discussing football. The first nightclubs open their doors and we begin to go out, to drink and enjoy the nightlife around Sousse and Hammamet. Other stories are circulating – about a Trabelsi who gave someone a horrible kicking because he felt like it, or another who caused a car accident only to return home to sleep. We exchange stories, quietly, quickly. In our own way, it is a form of vengeance: by gossiping, we have the feeling we're plotting.
The police are afraid: if you tell them you're close to Ben Ali all doors open, hotels offer their best rooms, parking becomes free, traffic laws disappear.
The internet is blocked, and censored pages are referred to as pages "not found" – as if they had never existed. Schoolchildren are exchanging proxies and the word becomes cult: "You got a proxy that works?"
We all know that Leila has tried to sell a Tunisian island, that she wants to close the American school in Tunis to promote her own school – as I said, stories are circulating. Over the internet and under the desks, we exchange "La régente de Carthage" [a controversial book about the role of Leila Trabelsi and her family in Tunisia]. We love our country and we want things to change, but there is no organised movement: the tribe is willing, but the leader is missing.
The corruption, the bribes – we simply want to leave. We begin to apply to study in France, or Canada. It is cowardice, and we know it. Leaving the country to "the rest of them". We go to France and forget, then come back for the holidays. Tunisia? It is the beaches of Sousse and Hammamet, the nightclubs and restaurants. A giant ClubMed.
And then, WikiLeaks reveals what everyone was whispering. And then, a young man immolates himself. And then, 20 Tunisians are killed in one day.
And for the first time, we see the opportunity to rebel, to take revenge on the "royal" family who has taken everything, to overturn the established order that has accompanied our youth. An educated youth, which is tired and ready to sacrifice all the symbols of the former autocratic Tunisia with a new revolution: the Jasmin Revolution – the true one.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jan/13/tunisia-youth-revolution
i think u r right about the international community turning its eye on these events like they do when there is no gain from it and boy are there loads of examples. i was just wishing they would literally back this up at least for the sake of the people who lose there lives all day and night over there.
as for the link i wanted u to read, i wanted u to see how pathetic they think they people are. the tunisian president is in power since 1987!! and all of a sudden he understands what the people want?!?!?! also his world is crumbling down and he still wants to remain in power till2014 and after that they can have normal elections?!!? i mean is he for real off course if he stays and this dies out he will make sure it will never happen again and the people will have to wait for another hundred years or until he dies.
as for the link i wanted u to read, i wanted u to see how pathetic they think they people are. the tunisian president is in power since 1987!! and all of a sudden he understands what the people want?!?!?! also his world is crumbling down and he still wants to remain in power till2014 and after that they can have normal elections?!!? i mean is he for real off course if he stays and this dies out he will make sure it will never happen again and the people will have to wait for another hundred years or until he dies.
Some info about Tunisia:
According to the Economist:
On the democracy, it is rated 144 out of 167 countries.
On the journalism freedom, it is rated 143 out of 173 countries.
Aljazeera is not allowed to work there.
Youtube and Dailymotion are blocked since years.
Some news say that the American miltary base Africom is planned to be transformed from Stuttgart to Tunisia despite the refusal of the Tunisian people.
According to the Economist:
On the democracy, it is rated 144 out of 167 countries.
On the journalism freedom, it is rated 143 out of 173 countries.
Aljazeera is not allowed to work there.
Youtube and Dailymotion are blocked since years.
Some news say that the American miltary base Africom is planned to be transformed from Stuttgart to Tunisia despite the refusal of the Tunisian people.
Well, they really think our people are useless and will not move whatever happens to them. I like the idea that Tunisians are not buying the any idea made by him else than him resigning. Nothing else.
On another topic, did you see the Kuwaiti interior minster yesterday? Did you read how he resigned because one of the prisoners there was killed by the torture? I loved how he said he is not honoured to lead that type of police.
It is a new trend in the Arab countries. I hope it will be good for all of our people.
On another topic, did you see the Kuwaiti interior minster yesterday? Did you read how he resigned because one of the prisoners there was killed by the torture? I loved how he said he is not honoured to lead that type of police.
It is a new trend in the Arab countries. I hope it will be good for all of our people.
no i never heard this reb!! this is a good trend though we r never used to this if one dies its ok there are millions more to go!! i hope they stay in there places and keep pushing for what they want i was worried they might calm down after his speech but turns out they r more determined to go thru this!!
speaking of taking the blame for anything, we sadly dont have that mentality u will never hear some one come out and tell the people i did this and i take full responsibilty for what i did instead u see : i asked the interior minister to resign bec he used brutal force as if he never knew about it or never issued the order!!
if one dies its ok there are millions more to go!! i hope they stay in there places and keep pushing for what they want i was worried they might calm down after his speech but turns out they r more determined to go thru this!!speaking of taking the blame for anything, we sadly dont have that mentality u will never hear some one come out and tell the people i did this and i take full responsibilty for what i did instead u see : i asked the interior minister to resign bec he used brutal force as if he never knew about it or never issued the order!!
also there is this مصادر للجزيرة: الأمن التونسي يعتقل أفرادا من أسرة الطرابلسي ( أصهار الرئيس بن علي قبيل مغادرتهم مطار تونس
قبيل مغادرتهم مطار تونس
also there is this مصادر للجزيرة: الأمن التونسي يعتقل أفرادا من أسرة الطرابلسي ( أصهار الرئيس بن علي قبيل مغادرتهم مطار تونس
قبيل مغادرتهم مطار تونس
Revolution WON!!!
