Bayern sponsors also own part of the club.
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In China now it's ManU, Real and Barca being the big three. Bayern being a distant fourth perhaps, and then follows Arsenal and Liverpool.
As to serie A teams there has been a clear decline in the number of supporters. It was the first European league broadcast live on TV some 35 years ago. And up till the beginning of the new century Milan, Juve, Inter are definitely among the top 8 in terms of fanbase, together with ManU, Real and Barca. But then EPL swept across with their Asian-friendly game time and dozens of commercial strategies, that helped them build a solid quantity of teenage fans. And at the same time serie A was going downhill and stopped attracting new fans.
The majority of serie A team supporters in China now are over 30, many of them over 40. And as far as I know, they are caring less and less about football.
As to serie A teams there has been a clear decline in the number of supporters. It was the first European league broadcast live on TV some 35 years ago. And up till the beginning of the new century Milan, Juve, Inter are definitely among the top 8 in terms of fanbase, together with ManU, Real and Barca. But then EPL swept across with their Asian-friendly game time and dozens of commercial strategies, that helped them build a solid quantity of teenage fans. And at the same time serie A was going downhill and stopped attracting new fans.
The majority of serie A team supporters in China now are over 30, many of them over 40. And as far as I know, they are caring less and less about football.
Don’t know if they were always ahead. English clubs won 6 European Cups in a row from 1977-1982, won again in 1984. Serie A was ahead from the mid 80’s after Heysel and until the late 90’s/start of the 00’s. Thats when PL really started to gain ground.
It might be a stretch, but after the introduction of the PL it was just a matter of time before they would become the most dominant league in the World.
I can’t speak for other parts of the World, but in Europe (at least in Scandinavia) you have loads of men being Liverpool fans because of the 70’s/80’s. English clubs became very popular even back then, these are typical in their late 40/s and 50’s or a little older.
You also find some who are fans of Bayern for the reason of West Germany in the 1970’s with Beckenbauer, Müller, Sepp Maier, Breitner etc.
It might be a stretch, but after the introduction of the PL it was just a matter of time before they would become the most dominant league in the World.
I can’t speak for other parts of the World, but in Europe (at least in Scandinavia) you have loads of men being Liverpool fans because of the 70’s/80’s. English clubs became very popular even back then, these are typical in their late 40/s and 50’s or a little older.
You also find some who are fans of Bayern for the reason of West Germany in the 1970’s with Beckenbauer, Müller, Sepp Maier, Breitner etc.
You always with these outlandish parallel reality toasts
Without disagreeing about EPL being the most attractive product right now it's obvious that other than the contrarians like ourselves here everybody is likely to relate to clubs based on their heritage, culture, language. Bayern and Italian clubs at their best had fewer global fans than shit tier kick and rush age EPL teams of the 80s. You're just looking at the matter like a complete bot 'beep beep no language needed to kick ball beep beep' but it's not like this. English & Irish (+Americans) connected by culture, Northern Europeans connected by spirit, Indians bombarded by English colonialism are going to predominantly watch the English league and the whole Spanish speaking world to root for one of Barca & Real. Sven Magnusson isn't gonna pick up fucking Barcelona as his club no matter how good they are and Manolo Gomez ain't gonna make Oliver Kahn his hero, is he? This is why Serie A is double-fucked, due to incompetence and because of the cards it was dealt in terms of global demographics.
Without disagreeing about EPL being the most attractive product right now it's obvious that other than the contrarians like ourselves here everybody is likely to relate to clubs based on their heritage, culture, language. Bayern and Italian clubs at their best had fewer global fans than shit tier kick and rush age EPL teams of the 80s. You're just looking at the matter like a complete bot 'beep beep no language needed to kick ball beep beep' but it's not like this. English & Irish (+Americans) connected by culture, Northern Europeans connected by spirit, Indians bombarded by English colonialism are going to predominantly watch the English league and the whole Spanish speaking world to root for one of Barca & Real. Sven Magnusson isn't gonna pick up fucking Barcelona as his club no matter how good they are and Manolo Gomez ain't gonna make Oliver Kahn his hero, is he? This is why Serie A is double-fucked, due to incompetence and because of the cards it was dealt in terms of global demographics.
It became the best league because at the time seria A clubs pumped the most money into transfers .
It's always all about the money.
Just as with the PL . When Russian oligarchs ,American tycoons and Arab sheiks started pumping huge sums of money into these clubs the only logical thing happened.
It became the best league.
Great atmosphere, new stadiums ,professional broadcasting was just the icing on the cake.
It's always all about the money.
Just as with the PL . When Russian oligarchs ,American tycoons and Arab sheiks started pumping huge sums of money into these clubs the only logical thing happened.
It became the best league.
Great atmosphere, new stadiums ,professional broadcasting was just the icing on the cake.
I have no doubt that Italian league with Juve, Milan, Inter, Napoli, Roma, Lazio, etc could challenge EPL in terms of appeal easily if those clubs focused on their growth instead of planting listening devices and plotting against the most trophied Italian club. Such mentality where instead of aspiring to ascend to a higher level, you are looking to drag opponents down to yours is difficult to change. Hence Italian league deserve ignominy and to fall into irrelevance.
EPL will join eventually, once the pressure mounts, they will start losing their best players to super league teams and become more irrelevant on the global scale. You best believe, if this super league starts, once rich clubs like them, who haven't signed up, will slowly become overshadowed, so they'll have no choice but to join
I don't know if it will go this far but I think UEFA has rested too much on the model and not done enough to fill people with what they want.
And part of the EPL being hesitant has to do with scheduling because they have like 5 cups. They've already got a stuffed fixture list and a full-on European league with its own table happening midweek is just a nightmare for them. I do agree that IF the super league takes off its only a matter of time before EPL clubs join. A competitive European table like a league sounds awesome and exciting and I think if the product is organized properly it will be WAY more exciting than the CL. This would spell doom for any club not part of the fun.
And part of the EPL being hesitant has to do with scheduling because they have like 5 cups. They've already got a stuffed fixture list and a full-on European league with its own table happening midweek is just a nightmare for them. I do agree that IF the super league takes off its only a matter of time before EPL clubs join. A competitive European table like a league sounds awesome and exciting and I think if the product is organized properly it will be WAY more exciting than the CL. This would spell doom for any club not part of the fun.
5 cups and make money from selling ticket and TV broadcasting rights, pay teams on how many games they play and win bonuses but if SL starts who would pay for EPL season tickets and pay for view because people don't want to see just a domestic league. The idea of SL would be good for fans who want to watch the best teams play each other.
I think you'll still have domestic leagues be dominant. Just like how CL hasn't changed the fact that domestic leagues are dominant.
TSL would be a more exciting CL but it's not replacing domestic leagues. Domestic cups? Maybe to the point teams literally play their rotational players there moreso than they already do. But I think domestic leagues are here to stay and be the primary focus for most clubs for a while.
TSL would be a more exciting CL but it's not replacing domestic leagues. Domestic cups? Maybe to the point teams literally play their rotational players there moreso than they already do. But I think domestic leagues are here to stay and be the primary focus for most clubs for a while.
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