++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Benjamin Disraeli: there are three kinds of lies: LIES, DAMN LIES and STATISTICS.
Those figures are not indicative of their play and style when put next to Milan or any other Top European club.
Milan had better european presentation that Juve, Ok thats right. Winning the CL 6 time compared to 2 is a big difference.
But calling the statistics I mentioned as lies, well that just shows that its difficult to discuss anything with you. I am trying to lay some facts and you just can't chill, take a breath and read properly. I am not saying that Juve are better than Milan Euro wise, nor am I sayind Juve are better than Milan this year Euro wise. What I was saying that Juve were really strong in the CL this year hence managed to reach the 1/4 final with only 1 loss and 2 goals conceded.
++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Irrelevant..Moratti spends more than Milan yet cannot win a simple Coppa Italia...last season Juve purchased Cannavaro and Zlatan while Milan added Stam and Dhorasso....and you are talking about putting $$ in?? How about the fact that you got rid of Maresca, Miccoli and Divaio last season....those players could not be considered 'depth'...noooooooo of course not.
Who said Moratti isn't spending. The difference between Inter and Milan, Milan knows how to spend the money and knows who to get. On the other hand Inter lacks everything. They even lack the player coach relationship. Everyone bashes everyone on the press.
++ [ originally posted by IncuboRossonero ] ++
Your last part made absolutely no damn sense...what is your point??
Explain why Juve have managed to win 27 Scudettis but have such a dismissal record in Europe despite ALL those attempts at a CL title.
I thought my last part was very clear... I think you should read it again.
You are correct on one thing
"JUVE MANAGED TO WIN 27 SCUDETTI".
About refs, During Roma's match our team suffered more than Roma from the ref. Just watch the match again and look at what Totti did to our players and to the ref. Look at what Cufre did to both Del Piero and Zebina. Look at what Dacourt did to Blasi. Atleast two red card should've been show to Roma's players in the first half. Do you still think that Roma would have managed to end the result as a tie with only 9 men on the field after just 30 min from the first half. Add to that, Cannavaro deserved a penalty, Zlatan deserved a goal and a number of fouls infront of the box that were not called. But you are right, both of our goals were illegal. And we got 3 points.
Ok I want you to answer me a question, what about your match against Lazio. Was Crespo's goal legal? huh? that was a winner goal
What about serjinho's goal, was that legal too? that was a winner goal.
because if you think those were legal goals then there is no point of discussing this matter with you, now is it?
The difference between our players and many others, when a ref does not call something for us, we do not stop the play and go protest. We continue playing, thats why you don't see alot of Juve players protesting after a refs decision when its against them.
Against Reggina, the match we lost, there was a goal for Kapo that was disallowed PLUS a penalty that wasn't given.. We should've atleast gotten away with 1 point.
Against Sampdoria there was a penalty that was not allowed.. Again it would have been crusial.. atleast we would have ended the match 1-1... Did our players portest? No. Did The media say the ref favoured the other team?? No.
I can't remember the penatly you were talking about against palermo it was long time ago, but if it is whats in my mind right now then it was not a penalty. Cannavaro HIT the ball away to corner the player was the one who tripped on him AFTER the ball go away into corner.But then again my statement is irrelavent because I can't remember the incident.
Later...
ZAF