Movie Talk (New Films, Old Films... doesn't matter) (40 Viewers)

[Ocelot]

First time? Please share your experience.

Yep

It was...different.
I don't have much experience with German Expressionism, except for some theoratical knowledge from school, and had no idea what the movie was about beforehand except for it being one of the oldest and influential sci-fi movies.
For me, the movie is just brilliant artistically, and manages to create a rather unique atmosphere - of course some tropes or visuals seem cliché now, but as I understand most of them actually originated from this very movie, so it was actually quite interesting to see the birthplace of these now all-to-familiar elements, and how little some of them have changed over time.
Visually, the scene with the Moloch-machine stood out to me in particular.

The plot and its "message", if there is one, seemed a little weird to me at times. I feel there are two general possible interpretations of it, one based on the religous symbology, with Freder clearly exhibiting parallels to Jesus and the place in Catacacombs beneath the city where Maria holds her masses possibly referencing the early churches of christianity (not to speak of the obvious Babel-analogy or satanistic/pagan symbology at Rotwangs house), and the other based on the social conflicts portrayed in the story.
With the latter, the whole content seems rather cynical to me - it's not the exploitation of the workers suffering for the elites living in luxury that is primarily portrayed as wrong, but the uprising of the workers against this injustice. Especially the ending, with the repetition of the slogan from the beginning of the movie, reinforces this idea. There is no suggestion that the living or working conditions of the workers will in any way improve, the only thing that has changed is Freders now acting as a "Mittler" to keep the poor from any real resistance or revolution.


But these are just problems I personally have with the political aesop, from a cinematographical viewpoint, it is undoubtedly a masterpiece.

 

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[CrimsonianKing]

*Applause*

That's a real nice interpretation that i dare not to add or take anything away from.

I'll just add a curiosity: Lang had a face-to-face meeting with Goebbels and was offered the position of head of the main German movie studio. Not forgetting he had a Jewish-heritage, he flew Germany that very day. Hitler was a big fan of his work and especifically, Metropolis.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

*Applause*

That's a real nice interpretation that i dare not to add or take anything away from.

I'll just add a curiosity: Lang had a face-to-face meeting with Goebbels and was offered the position of head of the main German movie studio. Not forgetting he had a Jewish-heritage, he flew Germany that very day. Hitler was a big fan of his work and especifically, Metropolis.

they were "socialist" after all also unsung here of metropolis is karl freund

 

[Enron]

Hey guys, can anyone hook me up with a torrent site that can deliver non-english films in their native language? I'm pretty new to the downloading. So gracias.

I really hate downloading the original Solaris (one of my favorite films) only to find out, it's fucking dubbed.

 

[Völler]

Hey guys, can anyone hook me up with a torrent site that can deliver non-english films in their native language? I'm pretty new to the downloading. So gracias.

I really hate downloading the original Solaris (one of my favorite films) only to find out, it's fucking dubbed.

Nothing wrong with a good Spanish dub.

 

[Post Ironic]

Hey guys, can anyone hook me up with a torrent site that can deliver non-english films in their native language? I'm pretty new to the downloading. So gracias.

I really hate downloading the original Solaris (one of my favorite films) only to find out, it's $#@!ing dubbed.

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/9058344/Solaris.1972.Criterion.Collection.1080p.BluRay.x264.anoXmous

Here's a bluray rip of the criterion Solaris with english subs.

Most films can be found on Pirate Bay or Kickass torrents, and in general have details that tell you what you're downloading and comments to verify.

 

[Enron]

I use Pirate Bay alot and the torrents will say "with english subs" and then just be dubbed. That's so annoying.

But thanks for your help.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Nothing wrong with a good Spanish dub.

No, gracias, amigo.

 

[Enron]

Nothing wrong with a good Spanish dub.

Nah bro. Dubs are the worst. I prefer subtitles every time.

As for Spanish films, don't need subs or dubs.

 

[Völler]

I use Pirate Bay alot and the torrents will say "with english subs" and then just be dubbed. That's so annoying.

But thanks for your help.

Have you checked if the file has more than one audio track? Sometimes there's both original language + English included.

 

[Enron]

Have you checked if the file has more than one audio track? Sometimes there's both original language + English included.

That may be the case.

 

[Völler]

That may be the case.

The one PostIronic has linked to should be fine. I'm pretty sure I used the same one some months ago.

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Good dialogs based on any worth of watching/reading philosophical topics, like meaning of life, virtues or whichever tough thing to cover I guess.

And then you don't think Stalker was philosophical?

Anyways, Waking Life fits your description perfectly. It's basically a bunch of non-connected philosophical discussions accompanied by surrealistic animation. I'm not a big fan, but it's definitely worth checking out. Blade Runner also fits the bill. You should also really, really check out some Malick films. I think The Thin Red Line is a great place to start. It's a fucking masterpiece. Trust me, Dule. Do it!

 

[Post Ironic]

Does anyone else subscribe to Mubi? ? I've been introduced to so many interesting films by that site. Each day a new film pops up and remains watchable for 30 days. Silent films, indie films, cult classics, b-movies, foreign films, obscure masterpieces, docs, a wide assortment. And a lot of films that are impossible to find on the internet. Not all. But certainly some of them. I think it costs about $5 a month.

 

[Völler]

Does anyone else subscribe to Mubi? ? I've been introduced to so many interesting films by that site. Each day a new film pops up and remains watchable for 30 days. Silent films, indie films, cult classics, b-movies, foreign films, obscure masterpieces, docs, a wide assortment. And a lot of films that are impossible to find on the internet. Not all. But certainly some of them. I think it costs about $5 a month.

Didn't think it was available in Denmark, but it seems it is. I'll check it out. It also seems like they have that rare Slumdog Millionaire movie.

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How's the quality of their stuff? HD?

 

[Post Ironic]

So very rare.

The catalogue of films they have shown over the years is massive, but there are only 30 available to watch at any given time. So there's always several films showing there I've never heard of.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Does anyone else subscribe to Mubi? ? I've been introduced to so many interesting films by that site. Each day a new film pops up and remains watchable for 30 days. Silent films, indie films, cult classics, b-movies, foreign films, obscure masterpieces, docs, a wide assortment. And a lot of films that are impossible to find on the internet. Not all. But certainly some of them. I think it costs about $5 a month.

Hmm i'm gonna look it up. Looks interesting.

 

[Völler]

So very rare.

The catalogue of films they have shown over the years is massive, but there are only 30 available to watch at any given time. So there's always several films showing there I've never heard of.

Only 30 movies available at any given time? That seems very strange. How about the quality?

 

[CrimsonianKing]

They have a 7-day free trial you can cancel at anytime. I might give it a try.

 

[Post Ironic]

If there is a good HD transfer of the film available MUBI shows it in HD. Some films have different resolutions available that one can choose. But many are just on there in the quality of the transfer available. Mostly 720 or 1080, and often HD.

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Only 30 movies available at any given time? That seems very strange. How about the quality?

I thought it was odd at first too, the 30 movies at any given time. It's a curated online cinema. Kind of like those interesting little cinematheques that still exist in bigger cities and show a variety of films from around the world and all eras.

I've come to kind of like that only 30 are available at a given time. If the entire 200,000 film catalogue was available, I'm sure I'd gravitate mostly towards directors and films I had some familiarity with. With it curated and hand-picked in a sense, it forces me to see films I probably never would come across otherwise in browsing the catalogue.

 

[Völler]

If there is a good HD transfer of the film available MUBI shows it in HD. Some films have different resolutions available that one can choose. But many are just on there in the quality of the transfer available. Mostly 720 or 1080, and often HD.

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I thought it was odd at first too, the 30 movies at any given time. It's a curated online cinema. Kind of like those interesting little cinematheques that still exist in bigger cities and show a variety of films from around the world and all eras.

I've come to kind of like that only 30 are available at a given time. If the entire 200,000 film catalogue was available, I'm sure I'd gravitate mostly towards directors and films I had some familiarity with. With it curated and hand-picked in a sense, it forces me to see films I probably never would come across otherwise in browsing the catalogue.

That "force me to watch films I wouldn't have seen otherwise" argument sounds stupid though. I'd rather learn about new movies from other people than from a random website. I'll still check it out though.