Movie Talk (New Films, Old Films... doesn't matter) (79 Viewers)

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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i dont quite see how is this racist to be honest ja5per?? i hate godzilla, how is that racist? unless there is sth i dont catch here.

It is suggesting that ALL the people from the far east have a complex with godzilla (if you are going to argue with me heres the timeline - 1. man jumps out of car boot, 2 - attacks people, 3 - one of them realises he is of far eastern, 4 - he assumes the man from the far east (because he is from the far east) has a complex with godzilla and thus references godzilla), its the same as saying every short person has napoleon complex.
 

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GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Racism is suggesting any difference between people because of genetic racial differences (ie saying someone is like something because they are black or chinese etc.). I choose to see the world as one every equal...you know CRAZY opinions. That film chooses to segregate racial and ethnic groups, making it racist, its very simple. Whilst it is doing that it also lends justification to those views and does nothing to stop racism.
that is complete madness, so if an antagonist in a movie orders someone's family executed you think the director/crew espouse and encourage such ideas?? you know what, you re just impossible and if anything you re as annoying as the people you complain about.
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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that is complete madness, so if an antagonist in a movie orders someone's family executed you think the director/crew espouse and encourage such ideas?? you know what, you re just impossible and if anything you re as annoying as the people you complain about.
Well you are changing the argument, im talking about a social mentality/ideology, you have just spoken about a physical action, which is a completely different thing. Im not saying everytime a non white character in a film is shown that it is racist, but its when you are laughing at a racial group through a (localised) socially created preconception of people from the origin that you are becoming racist.

I don't get why im being painted as the bad guy here, im standing up for equality and im the dick?
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Well you are changing the argument, im talking about a social mentality/ideology, you have just spoken about a physical action, which is a completely different thing. Im not saying everytime a non white character in a film is shown that it is racist, but its when you are laughing at a racial group through a (localised) socially created preconception of people from the origin that you are becoming racist.

I don't get why im being painted as the bad guy here, im standing up for equality and im the dick?
no it's not different, the movie builds up that actor's character as the idiot making idiotic comments no one takes him seriously and we re laughing at how dumb his retort is not at its racism; and you re the bad guy for being oversensitive and creating a tense atmosphere by actively looking for anything remotely resembling racism to clutch on. And if you look for you lessons in life from a moronic character from a crass comedy then you gotta bigger fish to fry than the risk of developing racist views.
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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You over estimate audiences too much, seriously. I dont know what the people of 'freedonia' are like, but in England, when i walked out of the cinema people were doing impressions of him saying that (people are really fucking stupid here) and were taking it seriously. It is the responsibility of the production houses and the directors and the producers and the writers to not have anything racist in because of how stupid people are. I don't like borat because the effect it had on the idiots in britain, its when i realised that some people were just too stupid to realise the point of the film ie, post modernism.
 

El Santo

El Enmascarado de Plata
Nov 26, 2008
2,414
Racism is suggesting any difference between people because of genetic racial differences (ie saying someone is like something because they are black or chinese etc.). I choose to see the world as one every equal...you know CRAZY opinions. That film chooses to segregate racial and ethnic groups, making it racist, its very simple. Whilst it is doing that it also lends justification to those views and does nothing to stop racism.
This is one of the reasons why Dave Chappelle left during production of his third season of Chappelle's Show. Because he thought some of the show's sketches were :gsol: socially irresponsible.:gsol:
 

El Santo

El Enmascarado de Plata
Nov 26, 2008
2,414
You over estimate audiences too much, seriously. I dont know what the people of 'freedonia' are like, but in England, when i walked out of the cinema people were doing impressions of him saying that (people are really fucking stupid here) and were taking it seriously. It is the responsibility of the production houses and the directors and the producers and the writers to not have anything racist in because of how stupid people are. I don't like borat because the effect it had on the idiots in britain, its when i realised that some people were just too stupid to realise the point of the film ie, post modernism.
:agree:
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,893
Sorry to interrupt the racism debate that is currently going on here (and aren't we all "racist" in some way or another?), but I saw some movies.


I Love You, Man - Pretty funny and amusing at times, but not really consistent. Segel & Rudd do make for great leads.
Oh, and Rashida Jones is just :heart:

Charlie Wilson's War - Very entertaining. I'm usually not a big fan of Hanks, but he was great in this one. Plus, there's Philip Seymour Hoffman. Has that guy ever delivered a bad performance?
Oh, and Amy Adams is just :heart:

The Prestige - I had very high expectations for this one, and I'm afraid they weren't met. Don't get me wrong, it's a good movie, just not that great. The final big revelations of both characters were too obvious for my liking. Not to sure about the acting either. David Bowie was painfully bad & I felt Bale was somewhat of a caricature.
Oh, and Scarlett Johansson is just :heart:

Fantastic 4 : Rise of the Silver Surfer - They actually managed to make it worse than the 1st one. Quite the achievement if you ask me. Possibly (probably?) the worst comic book movie ever.
Oh, and Jessica Alba is just ...


... one of the most annoying & worst actresses ever
 

Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
14,420
watched adventureland, it was a good way to waste 2 hours and not regret it. i guess there is more to Kristen Stewart than the dumb bella.

should be watching the watchmen in a bit.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Sorry to interrupt the racism debate that is currently going on here (and aren't we all "racist" in some way or another?), but I saw some movies.
We are. No doubt about that.

Charlie Wilson's War - Very entertaining. I'm usually not a big fan of Hanks, but he was great in this one. Plus, there's Philip Seymour Hoffman. Has that guy ever delivered a bad performance?
Indeed. He is the best actor of his generation.
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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Watched Yes Man yesterday. I expected it to be a lot worse than what it was so ended up enjoying it but it was still nowhere near any of Jim Carreys best.
 

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