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Dostoevsky

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So I finally watched The Tree of Life. I'm full of thoughts so it was worth of watching. It's definitely not a movie for everyone, but seeing some comments like 'this movie is useless' is so... no. Try looking at your life from a different angle, zoom it out. If you think that movie is useless, then that's like saying whole life, your life, are useless as well. But I guess it's just that people run away from abstract and from movies which "don't provide entertainment", same majority that will enjoy a romcom or some brainless comedy that's not even funny. I just wish people could see a deeper meaning, not just from a look from a surface. But oh well, who am I to judge, people should stick to what they like. Now, back to the movie :p I think music was pretty damn great and it blended perfectly in it. Shortly, it was a great way to sum up a childhood, love, fear, bonds and death. I think every picture tells a different story and it's to us individuals to make something out of it. What I didn't like about it (which at some level made the movie more unique it's own way) is the lack of dialog. I only say that because it had some powerful stuff in it, so I guess I just wanted more of it. Gotta also say that Malic has bought my attention for sure. After The Thin Red Line which I absolutely loved, and this one, I'll have to check out his other work like The New World and Badlands, which will happen soon hopefully. Overall I think it's a very good, and again, definitely not for everyone.
 

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So I finally watched The Tree of Life. I'm full of thoughts so it was worth of watching. It's definitely not a movie for everyone, but seeing some comments like 'this movie is useless' is so... no. Try looking at your life from a different angle, zoom it out. If you think that movie is useless, then that's like saying whole life, your life, are useless as well. But I guess it's just that people run away from abstract and from movies which "don't provide entertainment", same majority that will enjoy a romcom or some brainless comedy that's not even funny. I just wish people could see a deeper meaning, not just from a look from a surface. But oh well, who am I to judge, people should stick to what they like. Now, back to the movie :p I think music was pretty damn great and it blended perfectly in it. Shortly, it was a great way to sum up a childhood, love, fear, bonds and death. I think every picture tells a different story and it's to us individuals to make something out of it. What I didn't like about it (which at some level made the movie more unique it's own way) is the lack of dialog. I only say that because it had some powerful stuff in it, so I guess I just wanted more of it. Gotta also say that Malic has bought my attention for sure. After The Thin Red Line which I absolutely loved, and this one, I'll have to check out his other work like The New World and Badlands, which will happen soon hopefully. Overall I think it's a very good, and again, definitely not for everyone.
Then let me be that guy, this generation has no imagination whatsoever. Unless a movie holds their hand while explaining what is happening, it's useless, boring, too pretentious, etc. There's a reason super hero movies have been the hot shit for quite some years now.

This movie is truly beautiful.

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Actually, i meant The Fountain. It's the 3rd time someone mentions Tree of Life and i automatically think of The Fountain. Maybe because of that tree... of life in the movie. @PostIronic ever watched it? I'm sure you did.
 

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Then let me be that guy, this generation has no imagination whatsoever. Unless a movie holds their hand while explaining what is happening, it's useless, boring, too pretentious, etc. There's a reason super hero movies have been the hot $#@! for quite some years now.

This movie is truly beautiful.

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Actually, i meant The Fountain. It's the 3rd time someone mentions Tree of Life and i automatically think of The Fountain. Maybe because of that tree... of life in the movie. @PostIronic ever watched it? I'm sure you did.
I link the two films together, for the very same reason. That tree in The Fountain. Also, the fluid-based visual effects developed for The Tree of Life by Peter and Chris Parks were reminiscent of their similar effects in working on The Fountain.

I've never been much of an Aronofsky fan. His first film Pi, I did like, I found it interesting. Was never really sure what to make of Requiem for a Dream and whether I liked it or not. And I thought The Wrestler and Black Swan, though not bad films, were massively overrated. Noah was hot garbage, better left unmentioned.

That being said. I quite liked The Fountain. Something about it just caught my attention, perhaps its boldness. It was a rather beautiful film too. The soundtrack with Clint Mansell, Kronos Quartet, and Mogwai was excellent. And for it's quite modest budget, the cinematography and visuals were, as I said, rather beautiful. Jackman and Weisz in lead roles in this sort of film, could have perhaps been improved upon, although I don't think they did a bad job, they were quite good in fact.

Some critics complained about the confusion arising from the blending of Mayan, Biblical, Buddhist, Taoist and New Age iconography... The jumping from storyline to storyline, flashback, to future, to present, repeated, and so on. I found it to be seductive, this golden mist of confusion. I like how daring and bold it was. I like how Aronofsky stays away from the middle distance shots of everyday life, and instead seems to oscillate between close-up and distance. It makes for a lovely juxtaposition. Anyways, it's the only film of Aronofsky that I really do like, and I understand how it's gained a bit of cult following, since initially being met with rather mixed reactions.

Malick, is another that I'm not a huge fan of, for the most part. To The Wonder; Days of Heaven; Badlands; The New World are all mediocre films in my opinion, even if Days of Heaven is gorgeously shot.

But The Tree of Life and The Thin Red Line are stunning films. Malick makes beautiful films, with stunning visuals and cinematography. The four films I mentioned were lacking in other areas. These last two though, they're brilliant. Bold, ambitious, massive, and about similar themes of life and death, gain and loss. Both these films were ridiculously beautiful in my opinion. I just don't see how anyone could suggest otherwise. The Tree of Life might not be someone's cup of tea for various reasons, but at the very least there should be respect for just how stunningly beautiful the film is.
 

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:D I watched The New World. I don't think it's mediocre. I actually liked it and if anything I'd say it's pretty underrated. It's kinda easy to recognzie Malick's movies. I liked how he followed the story, music was also neat. I like how deep he goes with the inner-self thoughts, human problems, life, love, sorrow and everything he touches is something to think about for a long time imo. Now, I don't think the movie is superb, but it's pretty good and seeing it's 6.7 on imdb is kinda pathetic. It's always refreshing to see something new being thrown at you. Q'orianka Kilcher did really an amazing job since she was literally blending with both people and environment whole movie, she was really connected with the story, you could literally sense her emotions. Colin Farrell was decent, but I don't think he could excel with that role anyway. I can't wait to see how he does with True Detective this year.

But I totally agree with PI when it comes to The Thin Red Line. Brilliant movie without a doubt. I haven't watched The Fountain yet, though.

I also watched the new Hobbit. I liked it. Sure, it has flaws and it cannot be compared with LOTR, but I liked it and it was entertaining. I might be biased cause I'm a huge LOTR fan. It was hard to make a good trilogy out of a tiny book to begin with. But hey, as a big fan, there's no way I'm gonna complain about it. Kinda sad I won't see more of it in the future as I highly doubt they'll do a The Silmarillion movie any time soon.
 

Völler

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So I finally watched The Tree of Life. I'm full of thoughts so it was worth of watching. It's definitely not a movie for everyone, but seeing some comments like 'this movie is useless' is so... no. Try looking at your life from a different angle, zoom it out. If you think that movie is useless, then that's like saying whole life, your life, are useless as well. But I guess it's just that people run away from abstract and from movies which "don't provide entertainment", same majority that will enjoy a romcom or some brainless comedy that's not even funny. I just wish people could see a deeper meaning, not just from a look from a surface. But oh well, who am I to judge, people should stick to what they like. Now, back to the movie :p I think music was pretty damn great and it blended perfectly in it. Shortly, it was a great way to sum up a childhood, love, fear, bonds and death. I think every picture tells a different story and it's to us individuals to make something out of it. What I didn't like about it (which at some level made the movie more unique it's own way) is the lack of dialog. I only say that because it had some powerful stuff in it, so I guess I just wanted more of it. Gotta also say that Malic has bought my attention for sure. After The Thin Red Line which I absolutely loved, and this one, I'll have to check out his other work like The New World and Badlands, which will happen soon hopefully. Overall I think it's a very good, and again, definitely not for everyone.
Dule for life. :heart:

I'm glad that you liked The Tree of Life, but would have been surprised if you didn't. I also prefer The Thin Red Line, but both are beautiful. It's incredible how profound it feels when you consider that it melts both the creation of earth and the life of a family together in one movie. It's one that sticks with you, that's for sure. And perhaps it's the visually most beautiful film of all time? For me it's certainly up there.

Regarding Badlands and Days of Heaven, you should definitely watch them both. They are significantly different than the three ones you've watched though. They're stark (@X) and don't have half the amount of voice-over as the later ones. Days of Heaven is without a doubt one of the most beautiful films of all time though.

:D I watched The New World. I don't think it's mediocre. I actually liked it and if anything I'd say it's pretty underrated. It's kinda easy to recognzie Malick's movies. I liked how he followed the story, music was also neat. I like how deep he goes with the inner-self thoughts, human problems, life, love, sorrow and everything he touches is something to think about for a long time imo. Now, I don't think the movie is superb, but it's pretty good and seeing it's 6.7 on imdb is kinda pathetic. It's always refreshing to see something new being thrown at you. Q'orianka Kilcher did really an amazing job since she was literally blending with both people and environment whole movie, she was really connected with the story, you could literally sense her emotions. Colin Farrell was decent, but I don't think he could excel with that role anyway. I can't wait to see how he does with True Detective this year.
I agree, I think The New World is amazing too. I guess you could argue that it's too sentimental or simplistic, but if you buy the love story that isn't a problem imo. It's my third favorite Malick film. Did you watch the Director's cut or the theatrical one?

Decent quality torrent for American Sniper is out btw. @Völler
Thanks. Let me know what you think. :tup:

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Q'orianka Kilcher did really an amazing job since she was literally blending with both people and environment
That's key in all of Malick's film. The way he captures simple things like the sun shining through the trees in a forrest is profoundly beautiful. I don't know any other director that makes you appreciate the nature and the simple things like Malick. All his movies highlight the difference between the nature and the materialistic life we see today. In The New World it's in the the indians on one side and the settlers on the other. In The Thin Red line it's the difference between war and peace. And in The Tree of Life it's the the childhood on one side and Sean Penn walking through the city with its big, meaningless glass buildings. Is his world view naïve? Sure, but he's able to communicate his view in a way that leaves a lasting impression.
 

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I'm glad that you liked The Tree of Life, but would have been surprised if you didn't. I also prefer The Thin Red Line, but both are beautiful. It's incredible how profound it feels when you consider that it melts both the creation of earth and the life of a family together in one movie. It's one that sticks with you, that's for sure. And perhaps it's the visually most beautiful film of all time? For me it's certainly up there.
Haven't thought about it tbh but it most likely is. At least from the short movie collection that I've seen so far. I can't think of a movie that could beat it tbh.


I agree, I think The New World is amazing too. I guess you could argue that it's too sentimental or simplistic, but if you buy the love story that isn't a problem imo. It's my third favorite Malick film. Did you watch the Director's cut or the theatrical one?
Yes! It's exactly the case imo. People went in with bigger expectations and weren't satisfied with the love story (if we ignore the public that joined for a Rambo action). But I believe it's much more than that. It's getting connected with the unknown. It's experiencing the beauty of simplicity of life and what's given and on the other hand the separation and influence of others, habits and cultures. And that girl really made the movie unique in it's own way because at most of the parts, she was the world, the love, the sorrow and death. I really, really enjoyed the trip and time really fly by. I watched the Director's cut, if that's the one that last for almost 3 hours. I didn't really mind a single minute of it.

Thanks. Let me know what you think. :tup:
I will but dunno when will I watch it. I think Birdman is out too.
 

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That being said. I quite liked The Fountain. Something about it just caught my attention, perhaps its boldness. It was a rather beautiful film too. The soundtrack with Clint Mansell, Kronos Quartet, and Mogwai was excellent. And for it's quite modest budget, the cinematography and visuals were, as I said, rather beautiful. Jackman and Weisz in lead roles in this sort of film, could have perhaps been improved upon, although I don't think they did a bad job, they were quite good in fact.

Some critics complained about the confusion arising from the blending of Mayan, Biblical, Buddhist, Taoist and New Age iconography... The jumping from storyline to storyline, flashback, to future, to present, repeated, and so on. I found it to be seductive, this golden mist of confusion. I like how daring and bold it was. I like how Aronofsky stays away from the middle distance shots of everyday life, and instead seems to oscillate between close-up and distance. It makes for a lovely juxtaposition. Anyways, it's the only film of Aronofsky that I really do like, and I understand how it's gained a bit of cult following, since initially being met with rather mixed reactions.
:tup:

I think it's a great movie if you just take it for what it is. You can't help but being moved in the third act.
 

Völler

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Yes! It's exactly the case imo. People went in with bigger expectations and weren't satisfied with the love story (if we ignore the public that joined for a Rambo action). But I believe it's much more than that. It's getting connected with the unknown. It's experiencing the beauty of simplicity of life and what's given and on the other hand the separation and influence of others, habits and cultures. And that girl really made the movie unique in it's own way because at most of the parts, she was the world, the love, the sorrow and death. I really, really enjoyed the trip and time really fly by. I watched the Director's cut, if that's the one that last for almost 3 hours. I didn't really mind a single minute of it.



I will but dunno when will I watch it. I think Birdman is out too.
Yeah, the three hours one is the director's cut. I haven't seen the short version, and I don't think I'm going to. But you nail it imo. Q'orianka Kilcher (what a name) was almost angel-like.

Man, oh man, I want to see Birdman, but I want to watch it in the cinema. It's shot so the whole film looks like one(!) big shot. Haven't seen that since Rope and Russian Ark. And more important, it's shot by Lubezki, the cinematographer who shot The Tree of Life and The New World.
 

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Yeah, the three hours one is the director's cut. I haven't seen the short version, and I don't think I'm going to. But you nail it imo. Q'orianka Kilcher (what a name) was almost angel-like.

Man, oh man, I want to see Birdman, but I want to watch it in the cinema. It's shot so the whole film looks like one(!) big shot. Haven't seen that since Rope and Russian Ark. And more important, it's shot by Lubezki, the cinematographer who shot The Tree of Life and The New World.
Yeah and I would really bang her. Holy crap!

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Any info on this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2101383/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_3

I just noticed. It has Bale in it too.
 

Dostoevsky

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Which movie are you guys talking about?
The New World.

And Tree of Life.

And director of those movies overall :D

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Shame on you, Dule. :D @Lion
Shut up, you agreed with me.

Hell, I don't wanna back my words. She was great and attractive in the movie, I don't care, JAILBAIT IT IS! Btw she looked better when she was 14 too... :D lol
 

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