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Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,882
Weak?

They decide to basically die sitting in a broken tank. Then they take out 200 men from an elite german fighting force, WHILE BEING SITTING DUCKS. Ffs, the German soldiers missed their anti panser grenades - I repeat, SITTING DUCKS. Norman survives, is spotted by one of the surviving German SS soldiers and for some reason he is left to stay alive :lol:

Seriously, I feel like someone shat in my face.
 

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acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
10,722
Sooo, to be honest I didn't like Alien nearly as much as I thought I would, at least the second half of it. I find it degenerates more into a generic action/horror movie after the famous scene of the Alien's burst through Kane's chest. To be fair, some of that probably has something to do with sequences of other, later movies being in a large part inspired by this movie, but I just lost considerable amounts of interest through the latter part of it.

What I can only agree with however are the, especially for the time, amazing visual effects and set. The alien ship, and the cave underneath are just stunning, and I don't think it would even with modern technology be possible to make the facehugger look more realistic than it does here.

All in all I'm probably with PostIronic on this one, I don't love the film in particular, but it's defenitely among the Sci-Fi greats, and deserving of its place in movie history.
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Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Weak?

They decide to basically die sitting in a broken tank. Then they take out 200 men from an elite german fighting force, WHILE BEING SITTING DUCKS. Ffs, the German soldiers missed their anti panser grenades - I repeat, SITTING DUCKS. Norman survives, is spotted by one of the surviving German SS soldiers and for some reason he is left to stay alive :lol:

Seriously, I feel like someone shat in my face.
The movie is seriously ridiculous. And incredibly inaccurate when it comes to the capabilities of the M4 Sherman tanks, and even worse about the German PAK antitank weapons. Ridiculous last 20 minutes of the film.

I knew I should never watch a movie with Shia Labeouf in it. And Logan Lerman. Terrible acting.
 

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
10,722
It's extremely mediocre, 5/10.

Set's out to an epic, complex Sci-fi movie and fails completely at that. What perhaps remains are a few great visuals and a great performance by Fassbender.
wasted potential :agree:

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And to compare Prometheus with 2001 is laughable. It's full of illogical plotholes (and no, these are not things that "are left ambigious on purpose in order to let the viewer think for himself". They're just illogical plotholes typical of most mediocre to decent Hollywood movies). Besides, there is no originality whatsoever in it. Pretty much every concept or theme of this movie has been done elsewhere, and better at that.

I mean there are plenty of worse movies out there for sure, and none of its flaws are as severe as in really flawed films, but it's just mediocre, 5-6/10. Not anywhere near a classic, not in any way.
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king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Why would one not like Boyhood? I liked the first half much much more though but it was an amazing movie overall. Even I, as a girl grown up in a completely different cultural environment could relate to most aspects of the movie so I can imagine how enjoyable this would be for a guy grown up in a middle-class western family.
 

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
10,722
To fully experience it I urge you to pay close attention to details. I'll say no more as i don't want to spoil it. Don't listen to Ocelot.
Good thing you didn't follow your own advice, mate, otherwise it would have ruined your experience.

Prometheus has a very promising overall idea, "big-picture-wise", with the potential to be a masterpiece. Details and execution of said idea is exactly where it fails and falls to the level of a 3rd-rate action movie begging for special effects to put out the dumpster-fire once things get rolling. That is, it is your typical Ridely Scott movie, in sci-fi mode, minus an exception or two.

Here is some taste of what I mean that it fails namely at the details, and that's just scratching the surface:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2I167RDKRWB5X/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R2I167RDKRWB5X
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
21,331
Did anyone watch the Sin City sequel? i watched 20 mins and gave up. I loved the first movie but just have no desire to watch the 2nd.

Looking for a good movie t watch cant think of anything might try Animal Factory.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
Moderator
Oct 11, 2005
75,709
Couldn't make it through the opening story.

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Fury

Furiously terribad

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In fact it is so.bad that I want to quit watching hollywood movies all together.
I thought it was "okay" until the last act, then it goes crazy-pants make no sense with even zanier dialogue. Example
In the abandoned army hospital, "Norman, you're a good man". For no fucking reason.
People are treating it as if it's some sort of Oscar try. But it was directed by the guy who did Sabatoge.

One good thing to take away... at least the crazy unrealistic action was done well. This and Snowpiercer are my two biggest disappointments so far this year.
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
21,331
Why would one not like Boyhood? I liked the first half much much more though but it was an amazing movie overall. Even I, as a girl grown up in a completely different cultural environment could relate to most aspects of the movie so I can imagine how enjoyable this would be for a guy grown up in a middle-class western family.
I hated everything about it the acting (apart from Ethan Hawke), lack of plot, unlike-able characters and terribly long length for a film with no story. I didn't find it relatable or nostalgic at all.

I read this in another forum:

"Hitchcock once said, film is life with the boring parts cut out. Boyhood is the opposite of that definition. Imitating life is the most superficial thing a work of art can do. And Boyhood not only imitates life, but an extremley boring life. I can't think of anything worse."

Just finished watching The Perks of Being a Wallflower and loved. It is a much better coming of age movie with a great story and great acting not to mention the brilliant soundtrack.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
37,882
I thought it was "okay" until the last act, then it goes crazy-pants make no sense with even zanier dialogue. Example
In the abandoned army hospital, "Norman, you're a good man". For no fucking reason.
People are treating it as if it's some sort of Oscar try. But it was directed by the guy who did Sabatoge.

One good thing to take away... at least the crazy unrealistic action was done well. This and Snowpiercer are my two biggest disappointments so far this year.
I agree on everything. Thought the action sequences where very good, and you definitely got a Training Day vibe in the dinner table scene. Pretty good acting from everyone except Brad Pitt who just looks like he is there to collect a paycheck.
The scene where he is slapping Norman around, convincing him to kill the captured German was so bad. The entire scene felt like a Badass quote. The half assed slapping, dramatically gripping his face while showing no emotion etc. God it's awful.

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A Serb hating on America, why am I not surprised?
I'm not hating on America, but it just doesn't make sense. Have you watched the movie?

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The movie is seriously ridiculous. And incredibly inaccurate when it comes to the capabilities of the M4 Sherman tanks, and even worse about the German PAK antitank weapons. Ridiculous last 20 minutes of the film.

I knew I should never watch a movie with Shia Labeouf in it. And Logan Lerman. Terrible acting.
What the fuck is a Tiger II doing alone? It's the most expensive unit the Germans produced and they were always supported by Panzers or other lighter vehicles.

Furthermore, they go to lenghts describing how the SS were hanging children who refused to be part of the counter offensive and in the end an SS officer lets him live? :lol: Sorry, i Know I'm repeating myself, but my mind just can't get grasp it.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
Moderator
Oct 11, 2005
75,709
I agree on everything. Thought the action sequences where very good, and you definitely got a Training Day vibe in the dinner table scene. Pretty good acting from everyone except Brad Pitt who just looks like he is there to collect a paycheck.
The scene where he is slapping Norman around, convincing him to kill the captured German was so bad. The entire scene felt like a Badass quote. The half assed slapping, dramatically gripping his face while showing no emotion etc. God it's awful.

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I'm not hating on America, but it just doesn't make sense. Have you watched the movie?

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What the fuck is a Tiger II doing alone? It's the most expensive unit the Germans produced and they were always supported by Panzers or other lighter vehicles.

Furthermore, they go to lenghts describing how the SS were hanging children who refused to be part of the counter offensive and in the end an SS officer lets him live? :lol: Sorry, i Know I'm repeating myself, but my mind just can't get grasp it.
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CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,389
Good thing you didn't follow your own advice, mate, otherwise it would have ruined your experience.

Prometheus has a very promising overall idea, "big-picture-wise", with the potential to be a masterpiece. Details and execution of said idea is exactly where it fails and falls to the level of a 3rd-rate action movie begging for special effects to put out the dumpster-fire once things get rolling. That is, it is your typical Ridely Scott movie, in sci-fi mode, minus an exception or two.

Here is some taste of what I mean that it fails namely at the details, and that's just scratching the surface:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2I167RDKRWB5X/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R2I167RDKRWB5X
I don't share your opinion. :D

And really the kind of analysis that guy did... Well, let's just say you could do it to every movie and 8 times out of 10 they'd come out as having flat out stupid, unrealistic and "failed" scenes. It's only a movie.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
71,095
I don't share your opinion. :D

And really the kind of analysis that guy did... Well, let's just say you could do it to every movie and 8 times out of 10 they'd come out as having flat out stupid, unrealistic and "failed" scenes. It's only a movie.

those questions are so laughably weak @acmilan, seriously? how about this: if these scientists are so advanced why arent they immortal super beings who already know everything??
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,389
I agree on everything. Thought the action sequences where very good, and you definitely got a Training Day vibe in the dinner table scene. Pretty good acting from everyone except Brad Pitt who just looks like he is there to collect a paycheck.
The scene where he is slapping Norman around, convincing him to kill the captured German was so bad. The entire scene felt like a Badass quote. The half assed slapping, dramatically gripping his face while showing no emotion etc. God it's awful.
As far as war movies go, this one was ok until close to the end. I agree with @Enron there. Until that moment it was very entertaining.
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
21,331
St. Vincent- decent film... Bill Murray was great, best performance i've seen from him for a long time. Legend. Naomi Watts was great too and suprisingly funny.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
I watched Ying Ning's I Love Beijing tonight. Apparently, it's the third of a loosely connected trilogy about the rapid evolution of Beijing and life within this changing city, though I have not seen the other two. The title of the film seems rather ironic in the context of a film where many of the characters seem to come from outside the city and display a sense of indifference to this city and its endless construction, deconstruction, and reconstruction.

The story follows the cab driver Dezi, who uses his job and his car to ignore all other issues in his life. He seems to wander through the city in search of love, and finds only the fleeting semblance of love, and perhaps that is where the less ironic interpretation of the title comes from, this search for love, as Dezi drives through the streets of this city. The film obliquely observes the urban migration of rural Chinese from a distance without really commenting, Dezi meets women, both peasant and intellectual, he's both rewarded and abused, he finds love and loses it, most of all he seems to use his self-bought cab to avoid dealing with real life, which is also rather ironic, seeing as the film itself is a fantastic example of just how well cinema vérite can turn out, when a director doesn't go overboard.

7.5/10
 

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