Let's be realistic (3 Viewers)

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
111,727
#43
we dont necessarily need to play possession footie but rather if we re up 2-1 we should be able to kill off the game, all championship teams have that man u's second half performance this past weekend was a prime example.
Well exactly. Under Capello, we could kill off games simply by our own lethargy, which was easy enough to bore people into a stupor. But this team, strangely enough, cannot do so as it can't get enough of the ball. So that's why it's worse than Capello's days.

The game of football is so simple. Get the ball, keep the ball, and put the ball in the back of the net. Possession is a major part of the game and while it doesn't mean we should have the majority of it, we should not neglect it. If some don't think keeping the ball matters, then why don't we just have 30% of the ball every game, or maybe 20%. Lets just give it away more if its so redundant.

Such a simple concept goes over the heads of people. No successful team has given the ball away as cheaply as we do. Shame.
 

alex'10

Junior Member
Sep 17, 2008
221
#44
With the recent frustrating matches, we all needed to vent out a bit but some just took it too far. We are in a mini-crisis and something at some level must be done. i personally dont think our answer is in the player market. So let's hear your REALISTIC solutions instead of clamoring a 3 month old 'fuck the board'
Soloution - Give Ranieri & Secco a life time contract, also give Molinaro another 10 year deal on top of his current one, your team is playing like comedy:lol:
 

nabulio

Junior Member
Jan 31, 2008
322
#48
realistic?

You can NOT do wonders with players like Molinaro, Grygera, Marchionni, Legro (atm)... it´s obvious.

But I agree, let´s talk about how to solve our problems and not just cry.

Right now it´s pointless to talk about dreams (possible transfers), we should do something with our players available.

We don´t have much players to choose from in defence, so it´s time to change the mentalitiy, not players. What Ranieri lack´s the most is, that he´s not as good as for example Mourinho in psychological point of view. So better to work on it Claudio, otherwise...
It could help, even if we have just average players in defence. Just look at teams like Cagliari, Genoa, etc.

Midfield? Our biggest problem. Nedvěd has lost his pace, Marchionni is way to inconsistent and not a proper sub for Camo. Get back Camo nad use Tiago. Of Course I want Ranieri to change the formation, but i think that won´t happen. So Camo, Sisso, Tiago, Nedvěd (Giovinco). Oh, and bench Nedvěd sometimes and play Giovinco in Neddy´s place, he can play there!

Attack? I don´t see any big problem there, they haven´t had much service lately, that´s why DP played sometimes as midfielder. Bench Amauri sometimes, give more chances to IQ and slowly reitegrate Trez.

opinions?
 

Amaurisimo

Senior Member
Dec 8, 2007
4,622
#49
We'd do better with a better coach. That's all I have to say.
OK Andy, question was what would you really do, and real options.
So, who is that really better coach who really can join us today....

but please dont give us some unrealistic targets..Question is about real options...


The way i see it is a Pressure and focus problem... we need to give the youth more chances against weaker teams so they can prove themselves as well as gain confidence. We also need to rest some of the big guns and not play them when their out of form so not to lose focus..... its a balancing act and seems like "tinker" man forgot how to...
against weaker teams we usually loose, just see last few games..
Wegner experimenting with young players last 5 years, and i cant see when he will win something anytime soon..

sick of offside trap
we have "quality players" so offside trap seems to be easiest and best choice..

We have a team that has four great strikers, only one player who can play as a trequarista. You think it would be a good idea to only field one forward?
so you want us to play Amauri DP and Gio as trequarista right?

First off let's pray that Mauro comes back healthy, Chiellini's injury is not that serious and by some miraculous intervention Zebina loses his painting brush and starts playing some calcio.
Then one of the main problems we have is fitness related. We don't run like the other teams do when they play us. Might be because we play every 3 days but the injuries and lack of intensity are a big problem.
Then we have our system. It was supposed to be a "Camaleonte" system. What we see is just a flat 4-4-2 from the start each time. Could we have played another formation? Hell yeah! We're full of defensive mids so we could of played a 4-3-3 for example.
Using Tiago could help out in the creativity department.
Also another problem is the offside trap. The other teams figured it out so let's backup a bit or watch better those crosses from the opposing side.

What we need is too:

- have our injured players back
- use the turn over wisely
- field the right formation
- make key substitutions
- play like there's no tomorrow
...

To make it easier next season, buy the right players and if we don't win zilch this season a whole new staff from top to bottom.

dead right..

also we did play last 2 games 433 in second half. Maybe we turn to Poulsen and Momo , or Tiago, Momo as some mentioned!?
 

alex'10

Junior Member
Sep 17, 2008
221
#50
The current squad is abysmal, too many hasbeens or just simply mediocre players in it, your out of the league title race and will soon be out of the CL. The squad is in serious need of rejuvenating and heavy investment, even if that means selling buffon to bring in the finance to enable the club to finally sign mar-key players. No point in having the best GK in the world if you have a non existent midfield and defence. And bring in Rijkaard who plays offensive football.

Outs

Nedved - retire
Trezeguet
Poulsen
Molinaro
Melberg
Zebina
Tiago
Buffon

Ins

Ochoa
Zapata/Santacroce
Clichy
Essein
Xabi alonso
Ribery
Tevez
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
35,045
#51
The current squad is abysmal, too many hasbeens or just simply mediocre players in it, your out of the league title race and will soon be out of the CL. The squad is in serious need of rejuvenating and heavy investment, even if that means selling buffon to bring in the finance to enable the club to finally sign mar-key players. No point in having the best GK in the world if you have a non existent midfield and defence. And bring in Rijkaard who plays offensive football.

Outs

Nedved - retire
Trezeguet
Poulsen
Molinaro
Melberg
Zebina
Tiago
Buffon

Ins

Ochoa
Zapata/Santacroce
Clichy
Essein
Xabi alonso
Ribery
Tevez
For the love of god, please read the title of the thread... i beg of u
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,693
#53
clearly, this team has no attacking midfield and no defense. other than getting new players the only thing is see is a change in formation.
Basically yes. The reliability of Ranieri's formation was often it's strength. It's not working anymore due to wrong personell really. Ranieri's formation focuses on creating chances from the wings but our current wingers (Nedved and Marchionni) are pretty much duds. We are stacked in central midfield, less so with Zanetti's injury though, and in the strikers departement. We should play to our strengths and focus on these departmens, meaning a trident, protected by a less creative but stable central midfield.

Marchisio Sissoko Tiago doesn't look all that bad to me.

Or at least play Giovinco on the left instead of Nedved, something which should've happened in oktobre..

That and the lack of technique in the side is very depressing at times. We have Del Piero, Camoranesi, Giovinco and Tiago and Zanetti to some extent with excellent touches and really only one of those has been playing regularly.
 

alex'10

Junior Member
Sep 17, 2008
221
#54
icεmαή;1885685 said:
For the love of god, please read the title of the thread... i beg of u

You cannot do wonders with the likes of Molinaro, Knezevic, Marhcionni, etc you either sign world class players or continue to get beaten by minnows like Calgliari. You don't win anything with average players. The clubs transfer policy is the reason why your club is already out of the league title race:tup:
 

Alltagsheld

Senior Member
Oct 10, 2006
3,183
#55
You cannot do wonders with the likes of Molinaro, Knezevic, Marhcionni, etc you either sign world class players or continue to get beaten by minnows like Calgliari. You don't win anything with average players. The clubs transfer policy is the reason why your club is already out of the league title race:tup:
So, with you in charge, we would've signed all these players? :rolleyes:
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
Administrator
May 27, 2007
88,456
#56
4-3-3 would be better for us right now because our wingers are wankers.Sadly,on the other side,that would mean just bad news for Giovinco.

-------------Buffon

Grygera-Mellberg-Legro-Molinaro

----Sissoko-Tiago-Marchisio-

--Amauri-Trezeguet-Del Piero

it would be better than 4-4-2 that we play but even this one wouldn't shine because our full backs can't to the right job.
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
35,045
#57
You cannot do wonders with the likes of Molinaro, Knezevic, Marhcionni, etc you either sign world class players or continue to get beaten by minnows like Calgliari. You don't win anything with average players. The clubs transfer policy is the reason why your club is already out of the league title race:tup:
Thank you. Now get the f*** out :(... Take your post and jam it in any other thread... Do you even know what 'realistic' means? For example signing Ribery is as realistic as India winning the next world cup... If all you wanna do is post non sense I'll personally ask one of the mods to open a thread just for you... You can post there all day long...
 

Alltagsheld

Senior Member
Oct 10, 2006
3,183
#58
icεmαή;1885694 said:
Thank you. Now get the f*** out :(... Take your post and jam it in any other thread... Do you even know what 'realistic' means? For example signing Ribery is as realistic as India winning the next world cup... If all you wanna do is post non sense I'll personally ask one of the mods to open a thread just for you... You can post there all day long...
:lol:
 
Feb 7, 2007
808
#60
You cannot do wonders with the likes of Molinaro, Knezevic, Marhcionni, etc you either sign world class players or continue to get beaten by minnows like Calgliari. You don't win anything with average players. The clubs transfer policy is the reason why your club is already out of the league title race:tup:
who is already out of the league tittle race dude?
 

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