Juve's transfer campaign so far... (11 Viewers)
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ranieri wanted two players for each position, so we needed to add one player to every departmend... if you are not blind you can clearly see that we added a player to every departmend:
goal: manninger
defense: knezevic & mellberg
midfield: poulsen & ekdal
attack: amauri
you can chose who you think is the quality player here but you can not deny the quality and experience mellberg and poulsen bring.
if you compare our squad from now with the squad from the same time last year, then we got a much more complete and strong team now. don't forget that sissoko is also a "new" player and was not part of the squad at the beginning of the last season.
We added ten (yes 10) players to our squad. Do you think it is that easy for a coach to integrate so many players ?
Our team worked pretty well last term, so there are only little changes to be made to gain the extra point here and there to claim the scudetto.
Name a club that did add more players to their current squad than us !
It is totally clear that you can't buy 10 starters/champions, but the thing we lacked most last season was depth .. and that was the reason why nocerino had to play out of position so many times and we all know that molinaro taught nocerino how to cross
goal: manninger
defense: knezevic & mellberg
midfield: poulsen & ekdal
attack: amauri
you can chose who you think is the quality player here but you can not deny the quality and experience mellberg and poulsen bring.
if you compare our squad from now with the squad from the same time last year, then we got a much more complete and strong team now. don't forget that sissoko is also a "new" player and was not part of the squad at the beginning of the last season.
We added ten (yes 10) players to our squad. Do you think it is that easy for a coach to integrate so many players ?
Our team worked pretty well last term, so there are only little changes to be made to gain the extra point here and there to claim the scudetto.
Name a club that did add more players to their current squad than us !
It is totally clear that you can't buy 10 starters/champions, but the thing we lacked most last season was depth .. and that was the reason why nocerino had to play out of position so many times and we all know that molinaro taught nocerino how to cross
ranieri wanted two players for each position, so we needed to add one player to every departmend... if you are not blind you can clearly see that we added a player to every departmend:
goal: manninger
defense: knezevic & mellberg
midfield: poulsen & ekdal
attack: amauri
you can chose who you think is the quality player here but you can not deny the quality and experience mellberg and poulsen bring.
if you compare our squad from now with the squad from the same time last year, then we got a much more complete and strong team now. don't forget that sissoko is also a "new" player and was not part of the squad at the beginning of the last season.
We added ten (yes 10) players to our squad. Do you think it is that easy for a coach to integrate so many players ?
Our team worked pretty well last term, so there are only little changes to be made to gain the extra point here and there to claim the scudetto.
Name a club that did add more players to their current squad than us !
It is totally clear that you can't buy 10 starters/champions, but the thing we lacked most last season was depth .. and that was the reason why nocerino had to play out of position so many times and we all know that molinaro taught nocerino how to cross
goal: manninger
defense: knezevic & mellberg
midfield: poulsen & ekdal
attack: amauri
you can chose who you think is the quality player here but you can not deny the quality and experience mellberg and poulsen bring.
if you compare our squad from now with the squad from the same time last year, then we got a much more complete and strong team now. don't forget that sissoko is also a "new" player and was not part of the squad at the beginning of the last season.
We added ten (yes 10) players to our squad. Do you think it is that easy for a coach to integrate so many players ?
Our team worked pretty well last term, so there are only little changes to be made to gain the extra point here and there to claim the scudetto.
Name a club that did add more players to their current squad than us !
It is totally clear that you can't buy 10 starters/champions, but the thing we lacked most last season was depth .. and that was the reason why nocerino had to play out of position so many times and we all know that molinaro taught nocerino how to cross
Le Zebre is correct, you cannot class Knezevic and Mellberg world class, we still don't have the world class defenders we use to have, when we had Cannavaro here. Chiellini was going to be a huge part of our campaign at the beginning but now we have lost another chunk of our team and our lack of quality signings will damage the club in the beginning. I was happy to hear we almost came to agreement with Xabi Alonso but unfortunately we couldn't afford the increased amount which was a shame, now we know our board will not invest enough for us to move forward.
It will be difficult for us to do well this season, we can do respectably well in the Serie A as long as we get our stars back and avoid big injuries, we can do quite well in the Champions League but I don't see us going very far when we meet up with clubs like Barcelona. We aren't as experienced as our season with Cappello, so things are bound to be different. Basically the point I'm trying to make is, We need to make signings, and from what I've read our transfer market is closed, so this gives us a very hard time to be 'content' with the squad.
It will be difficult for us to do well this season, we can do respectably well in the Serie A as long as we get our stars back and avoid big injuries, we can do quite well in the Champions League but I don't see us going very far when we meet up with clubs like Barcelona. We aren't as experienced as our season with Cappello, so things are bound to be different. Basically the point I'm trying to make is, We need to make signings, and from what I've read our transfer market is closed, so this gives us a very hard time to be 'content' with the squad.
now just quote anyone from the board saying we would sign "worldclass" players ?
aaaaah, see ?
just because some cr7 fanboys want to have players in the team that need make-up in their face does not mean that our boards does think so too .
Our board did speak with ranieri and when ranieri says he wants two players for every position, than it is best to fullfill his wish.
do you want it here like in london (chelsea) where the owner says .."aaaah, i want some russian players so i buy them and the coach gotta play them"?
it is important what the coach needs to be successful and not what fanboys need to mastubate in front of a player poster.
aaaaah, see ?
just because some cr7 fanboys want to have players in the team that need make-up in their face does not mean that our boards does think so too .
Our board did speak with ranieri and when ranieri says he wants two players for every position, than it is best to fullfill his wish.
do you want it here like in london (chelsea) where the owner says .."aaaah, i want some russian players so i buy them and the coach gotta play them"?
it is important what the coach needs to be successful and not what fanboys need to mastubate in front of a player poster.
I told you in some other thread how to use the quote button, seems like you and internet forums aren't made for each other.
Anyways, about amauri I was referring to some poster who said that we have no player except amauri to get exited upon, baring the new season. Then I go and say "wc player", these 2 brackets( "") doesnt mean that they aren't WC players it means that to some they aren't, to me they are very established players. Its true that we still lack a very good defender especially on the flanks, but this doesn't mean that were going to fail and suck and everything because we didn't reinforce these spots. Hence adding de ceglie is till better than anything, last year we didn't have anyone but molinaro, so that's an improvement already. For our "creative problems" which to are non existent we have an extremely talented midfield with players who can defend very well and create a la zanetti poulsen, not to forget camo nedved (who's still a force) and of course giovinco and ekdal even tiago)
Then again I'm sure from your very aggressive posts that you don't rate any of zanetti ,poulsen or even camo high. I also want to tell you that your attacks on our board and ranieri are unfounded, they did a very good job of leading us back to CL football after 2 years of shame, last year they outdone themselves, also bear in mind that they could have sold our assets (gio de ceglie and marchisio) but no, they chose to keep them, instead of wasting our money on foreign talent. They bought amauri an outstanding player, and poulsen who's very underrated.
About alonso, he could have been ours it wasn't the boards decision not to invest 2 3million more, it was ranieris decision, he saw that poulsen would fit us, our team better. That's probably very arguable, but let's all wait till the season start to start judging whether this was a mistake or not.
I say, quit being so full of hate, our board has clearly made some mistakes, but overall were on the right track to fight for every trophy out there. Hopefully we will win one this year.
Anyways, about amauri I was referring to some poster who said that we have no player except amauri to get exited upon, baring the new season. Then I go and say "wc player", these 2 brackets( "") doesnt mean that they aren't WC players it means that to some they aren't, to me they are very established players. Its true that we still lack a very good defender especially on the flanks, but this doesn't mean that were going to fail and suck and everything because we didn't reinforce these spots. Hence adding de ceglie is till better than anything, last year we didn't have anyone but molinaro, so that's an improvement already. For our "creative problems" which to are non existent we have an extremely talented midfield with players who can defend very well and create a la zanetti poulsen, not to forget camo nedved (who's still a force) and of course giovinco and ekdal even tiago)
Then again I'm sure from your very aggressive posts that you don't rate any of zanetti ,poulsen or even camo high. I also want to tell you that your attacks on our board and ranieri are unfounded, they did a very good job of leading us back to CL football after 2 years of shame, last year they outdone themselves, also bear in mind that they could have sold our assets (gio de ceglie and marchisio) but no, they chose to keep them, instead of wasting our money on foreign talent. They bought amauri an outstanding player, and poulsen who's very underrated.
About alonso, he could have been ours it wasn't the boards decision not to invest 2 3million more, it was ranieris decision, he saw that poulsen would fit us, our team better. That's probably very arguable, but let's all wait till the season start to start judging whether this was a mistake or not.
I say, quit being so full of hate, our board has clearly made some mistakes, but overall were on the right track to fight for every trophy out there. Hopefully we will win one this year.
Stop living in the past for fucks sake, we got demoted to serie B, were cheaters to the whole sporting community. We're rebuilding right now, and our current squad whether you like or not is GOOD, good enough to win us a trophy. Stop whining you and that other new member, and start living in the present.
You're also contradicting yourself, you say we don't have a good team, but you go in your second paragraph by saying we can compete if our stars are back blablabla.
I don't see any other serie A team with a better transfer season than ours, except maybe fiorentina.
You're also contradicting yourself, you say we don't have a good team, but you go in your second paragraph by saying we can compete if our stars are back blablabla.
I don't see any other serie A team with a better transfer season than ours, except maybe fiorentina.
Just how long should the "Rebuilding" part take? 4 or 5 years????
Look at Barca, Bayern and Milan, they rebuilt their teams in less than a year, I think that 3 years are way enough to build our team, I know that our case is different than other clubs as we got relegated and our financial situation got really fucked up, but now we're back to serie A and CL, so when will we consider ourselves as one of the greatest clubs in Europe again??
Some members here (and they are not a few) hope for a CL group stage qualification and a top 4 position in Serie A........... Are you really talking about "Juve"?????
Some say that squad depth is our summer campaign objective, so we can replace any of our players with a mediocre player anytime we want !!!!!
In other giant clubs, the sub is at the same level of the starting player, while we are looking for anyone to warm the bench and we call it depth???
So did our campaign was successful? since we didn't increase the QUALITY in our weak points then sure it wasn't
and one more thing, we got over " Pre-relegation Juve", so please get over the "Rebuilding" crap
Look at Barca, Bayern and Milan, they rebuilt their teams in less than a year, I think that 3 years are way enough to build our team, I know that our case is different than other clubs as we got relegated and our financial situation got really fucked up, but now we're back to serie A and CL, so when will we consider ourselves as one of the greatest clubs in Europe again??
Some members here (and they are not a few) hope for a CL group stage qualification and a top 4 position in Serie A........... Are you really talking about "Juve"?????
Some say that squad depth is our summer campaign objective, so we can replace any of our players with a mediocre player anytime we want !!!!!
In other giant clubs, the sub is at the same level of the starting player, while we are looking for anyone to warm the bench and we call it depth???
So did our campaign was successful? since we didn't increase the QUALITY in our weak points then sure it wasn't
and one more thing, we got over " Pre-relegation Juve", so please get over the "Rebuilding" crap
No you get over the "look at this club and look at that club" attitude. Did any of the clubs you mentioned get convicted with cheating? Did they get demoted? We both know the answer to that.
According to what you say, we should have bought messi 2 years ago when we were in serie b, just because we're fucking JUVE. Jesus some members are just irrational.
We're in CL right now, next year we will definetly have a "better" team that our current one.
According to what you say, we should have bought messi 2 years ago when we were in serie b, just because we're fucking JUVE. Jesus some members are just irrational.
We're in CL right now, next year we will definetly have a "better" team that our current one.
how does that have to do with anything that I said?? were you reading another post or what??
Was any other club got cheating?? NO, but we got fucked hard and now we're back, so what are we waiting for??? are we gonna build our team in 10 years cuz we got relegated 2 years ago???
and what does relegation has to do with our stupid transfer choices?? it was mentioned here many times that signing Flamini would eventually cost us the same as Poulsen, yet we signed Poulsen, we needed quality defense and we wasted our budget on Amauri (who i think is a good player but not really needed now) , so tell me how the fuck did relegation made us take these decisions???
and finally dont you put silly words in my mouth : "According to what you say, we should have bought messi 2 years ago when we were in serie b, just because we're fucking JUVE. Jesus some members are just irrational" that's the most stupid thing I've ever heard, and you're calling me irrational ?????
Was any other club got cheating?? NO, but we got fucked hard and now we're back, so what are we waiting for??? are we gonna build our team in 10 years cuz we got relegated 2 years ago???
and what does relegation has to do with our stupid transfer choices?? it was mentioned here many times that signing Flamini would eventually cost us the same as Poulsen, yet we signed Poulsen, we needed quality defense and we wasted our budget on Amauri (who i think is a good player but not really needed now) , so tell me how the fuck did relegation made us take these decisions???
and finally dont you put silly words in my mouth : "According to what you say, we should have bought messi 2 years ago when we were in serie b, just because we're fucking JUVE. Jesus some members are just irrational" that's the most stupid thing I've ever heard, and you're calling me irrational ?????
And why is flamini better than poulsen? Is it because hes french?...
As for putting words in your mouth or whatever, you have the impression that we can buy "superstars" from any club and at anytime. Buying messi was a a cheer exaggerated example of such a scenario.
And no we don't need 10 years, but we need at least a season of CL football, so that makes it more than 2 years which to you is enough for us to get every single player that fits into the bracket of "world class".
As for putting words in your mouth or whatever, you have the impression that we can buy "superstars" from any club and at anytime. Buying messi was a a cheer exaggerated example of such a scenario.
And no we don't need 10 years, but we need at least a season of CL football, so that makes it more than 2 years which to you is enough for us to get every single player that fits into the bracket of "world class".
Flamini is better than Poulsen because he is better, french citizenship doesn't turn me on!!
If you got the impression that we can buy superstars whenever we want from my post then you didnt understand me, even Real Madrid can't do that, but at least we should have looked for the right players, there are very good players playing for small clubs, remember Hamsik, he was playing in Seria B when we were too, but we didnt notice him, got me? they dont have to be expensive WC players with a heavy salary to be quality players, Arsenal sign many of them every year
Edit: to avoid misunderstanding, Arsenal sign those quality players playing in smaller clubs, not expensive ones
If you got the impression that we can buy superstars whenever we want from my post then you didnt understand me, even Real Madrid can't do that, but at least we should have looked for the right players, there are very good players playing for small clubs, remember Hamsik, he was playing in Seria B when we were too, but we didnt notice him, got me? they dont have to be expensive WC players with a heavy salary to be quality players, Arsenal sign many of them every year
Edit: to avoid misunderstanding, Arsenal sign those quality players playing in smaller clubs, not expensive ones
I don't rate flamini highly so im going to disagree.
I might have misunderstood you, you're right about hamsik, this was a mistake, but even moggi did mistakes, demoting us to serie B being the most obvious one. So it's not so wise to start blaming our board for everything, lets give them this season and next to see what they can pull. Also look on the bright side giovinvo de ceglie and marchisio are back. Peace
I might have misunderstood you, you're right about hamsik, this was a mistake, but even moggi did mistakes, demoting us to serie B being the most obvious one. So it's not so wise to start blaming our board for everything, lets give them this season and next to see what they can pull. Also look on the bright side giovinvo de ceglie and marchisio are back. Peace
i think it was sensible to go for squad depth at this time of time .. you don't want us to be roma, do you ? if we concentrate on buying one star player instead of many that cover the various positions, then it would make us dependent on the form (see tiago last season) and health (see marchionni) of the player.
if the star player gets injuried we would stand there just like we did not buy anyone next season.
now we have 2 players for each position which is important if you play in many competitions. now when a player gets injured we at least have another player that can step onto the pitch ... not like last season with camo & marchionni injured, where we had to watch nocerinos crosses.
we have to maintain our level, before we can increase our game ...
if the star player gets injuried we would stand there just like we did not buy anyone next season.
now we have 2 players for each position which is important if you play in many competitions. now when a player gets injured we at least have another player that can step onto the pitch ... not like last season with camo & marchionni injured, where we had to watch nocerinos crosses.
we have to maintain our level, before we can increase our game ...
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