Juve's transfer campaign so far... (7 Viewers)

[Nicholas]

I'm more happy about some of the mouth watering youngsters we have coming through.

 

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[cyril]

I'm more happy about some of the mouth watering youngsters we have coming through.

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[Nicholas]

+rep back Homie.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

So, there is always a January transfer window.

 

[Nicholas]

Most players are cup tied then.

 

[Grande le zebre]

I told you in some other thread how to use the quote button, seems like you and internet forums aren't made for each other.


Anyways, about amauri I was referring to some poster who said that we have no player except amauri to get exited upon, baring the new season. Then I go and say "wc player", these 2 brackets( "") doesnt mean that they aren't WC players it means that to some they aren't, to me they are very established players. Its true that we still lack a very good defender especially on the flanks, but this doesn't mean that were going to fail and suck and everything because we didn't reinforce these spots. Hence adding de ceglie is till better than anything, last year we didn't have anyone but molinaro, so that's an improvement already. For our "creative problems" which to are non existent we have an extremely talented midfield with players who can defend very well and create a la zanetti poulsen, not to forget camo nedved (who's still a force) and of course giovinco and ekdal even tiago)


Then again I'm sure from your very aggressive posts that you don't rate any of zanetti ,poulsen or even camo high. I also want to tell you that your attacks on our board and ranieri are unfounded, they did a very good job of leading us back to CL football after 2 years of shame, last year they outdone themselves, also bear in mind that they could have sold our assets (gio de ceglie and marchisio) but no, they chose to keep them, instead of wasting our money on foreign talent. They bought amauri an outstanding player, and poulsen who's very underrated.

About alonso, he could have been ours it wasn't the boards decision not to invest 2 3million more, it was ranieris decision, he saw that poulsen would fit us, our team better. That's probably very arguable, but let's all wait till the season start to start judging whether this was a mistake or not.


I say, quit being so full of hate, our board has clearly made some mistakes, but overall were on the right track to fight for every trophy out there. Hopefully we will win one this year.

We'll fight for every trophy out there Yeah probably the worthless Coppa italia. Hey if your content with mediocrity & mediocre signings you keep supporting Secco, but don't start moaning when we get knocked out the CL & Fail to challenge for the league title

 

[Cronios]

i think it was sensible to go for squad depth at this time of time .. you don't want us to be roma, do you ? if we concentrate on buying one star player instead of many that cover the various positions, then it would make us dependent on the form (see tiago last season) and health (see marchionni) of the player.
if the star player gets injuried we would stand there just like we did not buy anyone next season.

now we have 2 players for each position which is important if you play in many competitions. now when a player gets injured we at least have another player that can step onto the pitch ... not like last season with camo & marchionni injured, where we had to watch nocerinos crosses.

we have to maintain our level, before we can increase our game ...

But this strategy will automatically prevent us of being competitive, both this season and the next one.
Having many but mediocre players, would mean that we will be able to make the whole season despite the casualties, but we wont be other to cope with the better teams, esp in the fights for the important titles in serie A and CL.

Having so many trash players in our roster, also means that we wont be able to enhance our team with better players in the near future, because 2 or 3 crap players will spend the salary one quality player would have
and 2-3 crappy players, actually cost the amount we need to invest on a quality player.
This strategy is a dead end and destined to keep us in the confined space of average to big Serie A team, we are bound to haunt a CL spot, having more advantages than the rest but also condemned not to go any further...

Our owners clearly demonstrated, that for them quantity matters, not quality,
if we step back through our history, we will see that when we were winning titles, our main team was world class and we always lacked world class depth, but still, our starter champions made the difference were it mattered the most.
Now we have become quite the opposite!!

To build a strong team, we should buy a few very promising names each year and use our very promising youngsters and nearly retiring champions, as depth.
Adding Mellbergs and Knezevic to Andrade and Legro can only be considered as a quick fix, when the combined salaries of all those players would be suffice to guarantee to fund, a couple of promising and reliable players, instead a pack of liabilities...

We cant go ahead like that, Camo was right...

 

[Enoran]

Overall, the mercato is acceptable. I wanted to give an inital "6" but comparing the transfers against Milan, Inter, Roma .. we did do a better job and thus deserved a "7"

Only maybe Fiorentina did a slightly better job than Juve.

To me, the return of De Ceglie, Gio and Marchisio, capture of Amauri and the holding on of Iaquinta (Do not know how close is he joining Roma?) are instances that the mgmt did well this summer.

 

[Cronios]

yeah, esp Milan's transfer summer was a total let down wasnt it?

 

[Enoran]

yeah, esp Milan's transfer summer was a total let down wasnt it?

They did not fixed their most problematic areas:

1) Central Defensive cover for Nesta and Maldini
2) Poor Goalkeepers
3) Aging squad

 

[Grande le zebre]

Overall, the mercato is acceptable. I wanted to give an inital "6" but comparing the transfers against Milan, Inter, Roma .. we did do a better job and thus deserved a "7"

Only maybe Fiorentina did a slightly better job than Juve.

To me, the return of De Ceglie, Gio and Marchisio, capture of Amauri and the holding on of Iaquinta (Do not know how close is he joining Roma?) are instances that the mgmt did well this summer.

Enoran, But Inter & Milan already had better squads than us. We still have'nt bridged that gap, especially with Inter. Inter have had a better Mercato than us in terms of getting quality, Muntari, Mancini & Inveitably Quaresma.

 

[Cronios]

They did not fixed their most problematic areas:

And we did?

 

[Enoran]

Enoran, But Inter & Milan already had better squads than us. We still have'nt bridged that gap, especially with Inter. Inter have had a better Mercato than us in terms of getting quality, Muntari, Mancini & Inveitably Quaresma.

I will say we are abt on par with Milan. I don't think Inter did a particular good job, i see Mutari as another Suazo & Mancini is not a KaKa.

But i will have to admit that Inter still have a better squad but you do not win matches on paper ...

And we did?

We did not cover all the gaps but we have certainly grow in depth.
Poulsen and Sissoko will be intriguing pair in my opinion and will provide more defensive cover for our CBs and allow the wingers to roam forwards more with all guns blazing :analcanon:

 

[Grande le zebre]

I will say we are abt on par with Milan. I don't think Inter did a particular good job, i see Mutari as another Suazo & Mancini is not a KaKa.

But i will have to admit that Inter still have a better squad but you do not win matches on paper ...




We did not cover all the gaps but we have certainly grow in depth.
Poulsen and Sissoko will be intriguing pair in my opinion and will provide more defensive cover for our CBs and allow the wingers to roam forwards more with all guns blazing :analcanon:

Poulsen & Sisssoko are out & out Defensive midfielders, thier style of play do not contrast, What is intriguing about playing with two holding players in the same team? Why don't we play with fucking two Goalkeepers.

Muntari is quality & no is not "another Suzao". United don't try to sign a player at the age of 16 if he is "another Suzao" http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/1331664.stm . of course Mancini is not a Kaka. But Inter have weakened Roma by signing one of thier best players for the second year running, Who's it going to be next year, De rossi

 

[Cronios]

I will say we are abt on par with Milan. I don't think Inter did a particular good job, i see Mutari as another Suazo & Mancini is not a KaKa.

But i will have to admit that Inter still have a better squad but you do not win matches on paper ...




We did not cover all the gaps but we have certainly grow in depth.
Poulsen and Sissoko will be intriguing pair in my opinion and will provide more defensive cover for our CBs and allow the wingers to roam forwards more with all guns blazing :analcanon:

Milan has also grown in depth, and that did this adding up some high quality material at their squad,they have the best midfield in the league by far, more and better solutions in the back than we are and they will still buy one or two quality defenders, their weakness lies at front,
many high quality players were added, like Flamini, Ronaldinho, Zambro, Boriello and Sheva, very few teams in Europe can compete with their upgraded material (probably only Barca)
They have of loaded a lot of old players and kept some important players to help them make the transit slowly and painfully, because you cant change into a quality team within year, if your change your entire team at once.
They did the maximum they could, in a year's time...

Comparing them to us is ridiculous, we bought Amauri, Poulsen, Mellberg and Knezevic, that would mean 1-2 starters at max and only Amauri has the potential to become a real upgrade in the long run,
just like goal said:

"Ask any average Juventus fan whether they are happy with Juventus’ summer transfer campaign, and they will respond with a resounding ‘no’."

 

[Enoran]

Suazo is a quality player too but we hardly see him plays, i am seeing the same for Mutari and not referring Mutari as an inept player

Sissoko is strictly not an out-and-out defensive midfielder in my eyes.

 

[Stephan]

I think the difference between juve and milan transfer campaign is that milan is buying good players who are currently flops, while juve is buying just flops who have never been good players.

And i know some will say, look milan aint in CL so they needed to make more changes then we, but wasnt it supposed to be easier for the club who will play in CL to make better buys.

 

[Ahmed]

good post, mate...its sadly ironic that the club who is doing relatively better (Juve) is acquiring crappier players

 

[Mike-e-y]

Suazo is a quality player too but we hardly see him plays, i am seeing the same for Mutari and not referring Mutari as an inept player

Sissoko is strictly not an out-and-out defensive midfielder in my eyes.

Then what is he??? A Goalkeeper??? Have you seen sissoko play? and have you noticed that he cant pass further than 20 feet?

 

[Grande le zebre]

Then what is he??? A Goalkeeper??? Have you seen sissoko play? and have you noticed that he cant pass further than 20 feet?

That is the point i was trying to put across to Enoran. Sissoko is strictly a Defensive midfielder, a ball winner. That is why it would been better to put him alongside a playmaker, that can spray passes with quality & can also support the forwards, like Moutinho. But playing poulsen AND sissoko in the same lineup is just wrong.