Israeli-Palestinian conflict (94 Viewers)

[Ronn]

Only ~3% hit their target last night. That must be embarrassing for Iran

These acts is for internal audience where the whole thing is framed differently.
in 2020 when Iran attacked a US base in retaliation over Soleimani’s killing, they gave a notice to US to move the soldiers in advance, and nobody died directly from the attack. But Iranian media spent a good deal of time speculating that hundreds of soldiers have been killed. This video was hilarious:

https://www.voanews.com/a/middle-ea...call-c-span-back-false-claims-us/6182726.html

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

Only ~3% hit their target last night. That must be embarrassing for Iran

What ronn said, also they only needed the missiles to hit their target and i would not believe anything Israel says.

 

[U Picciriddu]

https://x.com/clashreport/status/1779584557664088533?s=46

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https://x.com/khamenei_ir/status/1779576160088674681?s=46

Twitter is such a wild place

https://x.com/mahmudabbasps/status/1779577808152306134?s=46

 

[Ronn]

Iranian state TV shows a fire in Chile claiming it’s damage in Israel caused by the attack.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-...le-claims-it-shows-destruction-in-israel/amp/

also there are some reports that one of the drones crashed in a village near the city of Shiraz damaging a house.

 

[Ronn]

 

[U Picciriddu]

https://x.com/osint613/status/1779942343514169390?s=46

Israel is currently preparing a counter attack, the odds of everything escalating are very high.

@Siamak stay safe man

 

[Scottish]

Thinking of you, @Siamak

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I find this difficult to believe

 

[U Picciriddu]

I find this difficult to believe

What exactly?

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

What exactly?

That there was a real, serious attempt by Iran to actually inflict damage:

1. Knowing that could bring the US in and
2. Sending drones that take hours to actually reach Israel.

If it were a genuine attempt to inflict real damage on Israel, I would assume they would just use their proxies to carry out something similar to what occured at the outset of this conflict considering they seem to excel at that.

 

[Ronn]

That there was a real, serious attempt by Iran to actually inflict damage:

1. Knowing that could bring the US in and
2. Sending drones that take hours to actually reach Israel.

If it were a genuine attempt to inflict real damage on Israel, I would assume they would just use their proxies to carry out something similar to what occured at the outset of this conflict considering they seem to excel at that.

That’s pretty clear but looks like Israel is looking to expand the war now that the prospect of winning it in Gaza is not that great.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

That’s pretty clear but looks like Israel is looking to expand the war now that the prospect of winning it in Gaza is not that great.

Hopefully we don't get involved in their bullshit.

 

[Fab Fragment]

Unfortunately, Jordan and east of the river Nile is firmly in Israel’s sights. King Abdullah of Jordan and Gen Sisi of Egypt appear to be living in a fool’s paradise.

 

[U Picciriddu]

That there was a real, serious attempt by Iran to actually inflict damage:

1. Knowing that could bring the US in and
2. Sending drones that take hours to actually reach Israel.

If it were a genuine attempt to inflict real damage on Israel, I would assume they would just use their proxies to carry out something similar to what occured at the outset of this conflict considering they seem to excel at that.

Well they used 120 ballistic missiles, but I don’t know how many of them were launched by proxies.

I think we can only speculate

 

[Seven]

That’s pretty clear but looks like Israel is looking to expand the war now that the prospect of winning it in Gaza is not that great.

Hm.

On the one hand Israel have public opinion against them right now. They are under investigation for genocide, that's no small feat these days.

On the other hand they could capitalise on the Iran aggression to make themselves look like the good guy. No one likes Iran.

I wonder how it will play out, but I do hope North America and Europe will not go along with Israel's bullshit.

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[U Picciriddu]

https://x.com/thestudyofwar/status/1779655646750572863?s=46

 

[Ronn]

Hopefully we don't get involved in their bullshit.

It’s election year and Israel is very unpopular, but if it becomes an all out war then US wouldn’t have any good options. That’s why US and UK are desperately trying to stop Israel from responding.
things are not looking good.

 

[U Picciriddu]

It’s election year and Israel is very unpopular, but if it becomes an all out war then US wouldn’t have any good options. That’s why US and UK are desperately trying to stop Israel from responding.
things are not looking good.

Im afraid for a geopolitical domino, that by escalation in both Ukraine and Israel that ‘we’ as the West are getting dragged into the war. I don’t see us accepting that Jerusalem and Kiev would fall.

 

[Ronn]

Im afraid for a geopolitical domino, that by escalation in both Ukraine and Israel that ‘we’ as the West are getting dragged into the war. I don’t see us accepting that Jerusalem and Kiev would fall.

Iran is as isolated as a country can be. The government there lacks popular support too. That’s why they’re reluctant to escalate this beyond proxy groups and performative attacks. But yeah, in a war between Iran and Israel west has no choice but to support Israel considering the alternative.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Iran is as isolated as a country can be. The government there lacks popular support too. That’s why they’re reluctant to escalate this beyond proxy groups and performative attacks. But yeah, in a war between Iran and Israel west has no choice but to support Israel considering the alternative.

Yes and geography is in our favour, unless they form a coalition.

Yesterday I was listening to a podcast between analysts, they were quite pessimistic about everything. Apparently the difficult part of trying to manage everything for western politicians is because the European and American elections are ahead of us, which make it hard to find any long term commitments and agreements. Hard measurements either to Russia or Iran might lead to inflation and therefore create a better position for the far right. Besides that, it’s also a question of what kind of world Trump and the new EU leaders will inherent within the next 6 months to a year.

Also a interesting fact is that we haven’t seen as many conflict in a global level since 1946. Apparently there are over 50 conflicts going on, most with militias fighting in countries against each other instead of conventional war between countries, but the world of hostiler than all of us have ever seen.

It feels a bit like we’re in a situation where we don’t have any grip on, we’re left hoping that Israel, Russia or Iran won’t make any decision that would worsen the situation, and nobody trusts any of those parties.