Israeli-Palestinian conflict (67 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

240 hostages do you know how many thousands are held hostage in israel prisons for decades?

what about the 9000 have been murdered in a single month and still counting, you sons of whores? jew york post.

btw, those women are way more likeable than these shit stains

And what have you to say about Turks genociding 1-2 million Armenian, Assyrian, and Greek Christians just over a century ago? Must be a lot of real shit stains in Turkey.

 

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[BayernFan]

I understand your point, but at the same time we've reached a tipping point with regards to the Holocaust. Israelis could have probably still used this to guilt people if they hadn't been so reckless about using this card. It has been overdone to the point that any mention of the Holocaust now immediately angers most people.

I fully agree with you, I was just using his own retarded logic against him.

 

[Orgut]

240 hostages do you know how many thousands are held hostage in israel prisons for decades?

what about the 9000 have been murdered in a single month and still counting, you sons of whores? jew york post.

btw, those women are way more likeable than these shit stains

Are you joking? Hostages in Israel? WTF are you talking about? Are you talking about Hamas terrorists that were captured after trying to attack the country.
I live in Israel unlike you and see everything up close - Israel has no need for hostages, putting terrorists in jail is where terrorists should be - In fact I even think its a very easy punishment for them.
Hamas attack whatever they can attack (especially civilians) - and unlike The Hamas way of hiding behind civilians - Israel dont target civilians and even warn them to go out of there before they attack their target even though it kind of hurt the mission as Hamas can evacuate from there as well.
You have no idea what you are talking about and blinded by hate spread by your government who is actually Iran`s best buddies. So its not really surprising they support and denounce Israel the state that were attacked in first place.

As for videos like the trend mocking Palestinians - What can I tell you, there are idiots all over the world, Israel are not immune as well.

Another thing about it - I personally have a lot of criticism for all sides involved but attacking and kidnapping civilians cant be justified and cannot really expect it to go through without a strong retaliation.
The USA would already destroy the place should they have that problem - and you know Im right about this one.

Last thing - Dont take it personally Im speaking out of pain seeing all the suffering so close to me. I dont have anything against your personally.

 

[BayernFan]

And what have you to say about Turks genociding 1-2 million Armenian, Assyrian, and Greek Christians just over a century ago? Must be a lot of real shit stains in Turkey.

He will probably deny it happened.

 

[Seven]

I fully agree with you, I was just using his own retarded logic against him.

Yeah, I know.

But it is something I've noticed recently. I think even 10-20 years ago any reference to the Holocaust would have been enough to make people shut up about atrocities committed by Israelis. This time around it seems to have the complete opposite effect. I mean that yellow star in the UN.. It was just so wrong.

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Israel dont target civilians and even warn them to go out of there before they attack their target even though it kind of hurt the mission as Hamas can evacuate from there as well.

Asking people to evacuate while there is nowhere to go to and then bombing them anyway hardly seems fair.

 

[BayernFan]

Yeah, I know.

But it is something I've noticed recently. I think even 10-20 years ago any reference to the Holocaust would have been enough to make people shut up about atrocities committed by Israelis. This time around it seems to have the complete opposite effect. I mean that yellow star in the UN.. It was just so wrong.

They surely can't keep using the argument forever.

And I don't want to defend the Israelis doing war crimes in any way or form. But I think from their view point, they will never again be put in a position where they're at the mercy of others because of what happened to them through out history, and especially in the 30's and 40's. It has made their national psyche into being the way they are today.

And the numerous aggressive wars initiated from their neighbours certainly also didn't help in this.

 

[Seven]

They surely can't keep using the argument forever.

And I don't want to defend the Israelis doing war crimes in any way or form. But I think from their view point, they will never be at the mercy of others again because of what happened to them through out history, and especially in the 30's and 40's. It has made their national psyche into being the way they are today.

And the numerous aggressive wars initiated from their neighbours certainly also didn't help in this.

If they don't want to be at the mercy of others, I suggest they start working on an excellent space program.

 

[BayernFan]

If they don't want to be at the mercy of others, I suggest they start working on an excellent space program.

I think you get what I mean

 

[Seven]

I think you get what I mean

I do, but this is precisely Israel's problem.

No matter what they do, they will always be at the mercy of others.

 

[DAiDEViL]

If they don't want to be at the mercy of others, I suggest they start working on an excellent space program.

What about the Nazi colony on the dark side of the moon?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

jews in space is a bad idea. they would sell the earth to aliens at the first possible opportunity.

 

[Tomice]

I do, but this is precisely Israel's problem.

No matter what they do, they will always be at the mercy of others.

You keep saying that but never give any concrete argument other then your feelings.

I do agree about the holocust thing though.

 

[Seven]

You keep saying that but never give any concrete argument other then your feelings.

I do agree about the holocust thing though.

You don't understand.

Everyone is at the mercy of others. That's simply how international politics work.

This rings especially true when you're a country of about 10 million though. Do you understand just how tiny you are? The USA have a population that is almost 40 times your size. Let's not even get into China or India. And it's not just population, it's land too. Israel is 22,145 sq.km. The USA are 9,833,520 sq. km. Israel will always depend on the goodwill of others. The sooner they understand this basic idea, the better. The hubris is insufferable.

 

[zizinho]

Difference is that the last World war ended in 1945, Europe has since then moved forward for the better.

Europa was highly fanatic politically and with extreme militarism, but apart from Russia you don’t see the Europeans fighting each other all the time like we used to do.

I guess Balkans arent part of europe then

 

[Tomice]

You don't understand.

Everyone is at the mercy of others. That's simply how international politics work.

This rings especially true when you're a country of about 10 million though. Do you understand just how tiny you are? The USA have a population that is almost 40 times your size. Let's not even get into China or India. And it's not just population, it's land too. Israel is 22,145 sq.km. The USA are 9,833,520 sq. km. Israel will always depend on the goodwill of others. The sooner they understand this basic idea, the better. The hubris is insufferable.

No hubris here.

First I just guess we have completely differant understanding of what the word mercy means.

Secondly, I guess we have completely different understanding of how the world works if you think anything is done out of goodwill.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I guess Balkans arent part of europe then

Those are just Balkan things.

 

[BayernFan]

I guess Balkans arent part of europe then

That is soon to be 3 decades ago though, not really that recently. It's still recent in memory of course.

But conflicts/wars in Europe are far in between these days compared to what it used to be. Before WW2 Europe was in turmoil and conflict most of the time in some way or another.

 

[Seven]

No hubris here.

First I just guess we have completely differant understanding of what the word mercy means.

Secondly, I guess we have completely different understanding of how the world works if you think anything is done out of goodwill.

Israel are nothing but hubris.

Your official state instagram account (ridiculous that it exists btw) is threatening celebrities that do not automatically take Israel's side. That's how deluded Israel is right now. And time and time again Israelis will claim they don't need anyone. Fine. Maybe the world does not need you. Maybe the world should stop helping Israel as it has been doing for decades. Because, maybe, if we left Israel to its own devices, this ordeal would be over quite a bit quicker than Israel expects it to be.

I feel for Israel's citizens. I really do. Just like Palestinian civilians, most of them did not decide their government's actions. But it would be helpful if they were critical.

 

[Lion]

can we all agree this entire conflict is @Orgut fault?

none of this would of happened if he didn't start deciding to type his essays in transfer threads

 

[Tomice]

Israel are nothing but hubris.

Your official state instagram account (ridiculous that it exists btw) is threatening celebrities that do not automatically take Israel's side. That's how deluded Israel is right now.

I understand you have your feelings, that's fine but I don't see the relevance.