Giuseppe Rossi (28 Viewers)

[rounder]

i doubt any club wouldn't pine to have him in their lineup

yet the ungrateful juve fans feel that trez is a casualty.

his productivity is unrivaled, the numbers are there to prove it and yet the short term memory seems to come into play for some odd reason

You find me a Man Utd or Barca fan who wants David Treeguet and I'll mail you my nutsack.

No you are right, Man utd are going to break the bank for Amauri to replace Ronaldo.

How is that defending Trez exactly? Attacking Amauri doesn't hide the fact that no top rate team is willing to buy Trez right now.

 

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[Martin]

Two seasons ago, there, you happy?

No, two seasons ago is 24 months (using standard mathematics at least). 12 months is one season.

Let's cut this sentimental bullshit

Pray tell why?

The guy earns 9 M per year, and he's perobably going to be a sub.

Why on earth would he be a sub? He's never been a sub in his entire Juve career, why now? The only reason Amauri was starting in the beginning of the season was Trez' injury.

 

[pierrelb]

i doubt any club wouldn't pine to have him in their lineup

yet the ungrateful juve fans feel that trez is a casualty.

his productivity is unrivaled, the numbers are there to prove it and yet the short term memory seems to come into play for some odd reason

i would hope plp don't have a problem with trez. i just think plp don't see him replicating his form. he's older, had injury issues, and probably won't get the playing time he wants. i still think he's quality, but it's also difficult to pass up on rossi, so i'm not sure where to go here.

 

[KB824]

I see, so it's one gesture and you're blacklisted for life? Pardon me for saying this, but you seem to be very comfortable with taking one event in 5 years and holding it over someone forever. I don't happen to subscribe to that, I was the one defending Zidane from the mob around here when he left too. Apparently to some people one bad thing wipes out everything good a person has ever done.

So yes, despite his signals to leave that have appeared maybe not every summer but at least several of them, I still hold his achievements at Juve at a higher regard. This must be shocking to someone who's only capable of holding one concept in their mind at any one time (not talking to you here).

You don't have to sugarcoat anything with me, man. If you are directing it towards me, then just say so.

You were the one that compared his situation to Nedved's, not me, dude. You yourself wondered aloud why it is that Nedved who, as you put it, has been here less than Trez, albeit by only a season, was getting a hero's sendoff, while you feel that some of us are disrespecting Trezeguet.

That was my theory, I'm sticking to it.

 

[juve901]

Two seasons ago, there, you happy?

It's irrelevant. You don't have to be at a great club to be considered a great talent. Look at players like Cassano, David Villa etc..

Let's cut this sentimental bullshit. I don't hate Trez, I wouldn't be a Juve fan if I did. I'm just being realistic here. The guy earns 9 M per year, and he's perobably going to be a sub. He's 32 years old now and he's no getting any younger. Iaquinta is just as productive as him right now and even has that little extra drive that Trez lacks.

I think it would be for both Trez's and Juve's best interest to part.

Trez would join Villareal, he would get regular playing time. He would be playing under less pressure against less defensive teams. He would be much happier.

Juve would be able to buy G.Rossi, Italy's brightest young talent. We would be able to cut our wages drastically in the coming years with Trez gone. And a team consisting of Amauri, Rossi, Del piero, Diego, Camoranesi, Giovinco is just mouthwatering to say the least. We would probably have the most creative squad in Italy.

Who would have thought it?

agreed.

 

[KB824]

yes, then i hope we apply the same logic to buffon, camoranesi and del piero (when his time comes)

For the good of the team, then yes.

Again, if people are supporting the name on the back, and not the front, then so be it. Its their choice

 

[bianconero]

You find me a Man Utd or Barca fan who wants David Treeguet and I'll mail you my nutsack.



How is that defending Trez exactly? Attacking Amauri doesn't hide the fact that no top rate team is willing to buy Trez right now.

That's your argument.

Find me a Barça or Man U fan who wants Amauri.

 

[.zero]

You find me a Man Utd or Barca fan who wants David Treeguet and I'll mail you my nutsack.

ok

and you find me the numbers where amauri matches david's stats at whatever age you would liike to compare. i don't care what club he played for, its all about the numbers

 

[Osman]

]Trez-type strikers :[/B] Berbatov, Huntelaar, Gilardino, Pizzaro. Luca Toni.

Non Trez-type strikers: Rooney, Eto, Ibra, Pato, Henry, Pato, David Villa, Torres.

Who's better? Tough one eh?

Seen Berbatov MUCH, hmm??

 

[Osman]

He's black.

He IS???

 

[Martin]

You don't have to sugarcoat anything with me, man. If you are directing it towards me, then just say so.

You were the one that compared his situation to Nedved's, not me, dude. You yourself wondered aloud why it is that Nedved who, as you put it, has been here less than Trez, albeit by only a season, was getting a hero's sendoff, while you feel that some of us are disrespecting Trezeguet.

That was my theory, I'm sticking to it.

Fine, it's an okay theory. I don't think it's really true, because some people have always been on his case without any mention of those events. But like him or not I think some of these statements of him being inferior to Amauri or Iaq are ludicrous considering what he's done here.

And I didn't mean you, you are "proven" to use a Trez analogy.

 

[rounder]

I see, so it's one gesture and you're blacklisted for life? Pardon me for saying this, but you seem to be very comfortable with taking one event in 5 years and holding it over someone forever. I don't happen to subscribe to that, I was the one defending Zidane from the mob around here when he left too. Apparently to some people one bad thing wipes out everything good a person has ever done.

So yes, despite his signals to leave that have appeared maybe not every summer but at least several of them, I still hold his achievements at Juve at a higher regard. This must be shocking to someone who's only capable of holding one concept in their mind at any one time (not talking to you here).

With your mentality, Juve will really become the next Milan. You can't pay a guy 9 M a year because he's stuck with the team in serie B or something. The guy is no angel, if he loves juve so much why doesn't he get a pay-cut or something. The club isn't exactly sitting on gold.

It's amazing how you're okay with leaving aging subs who cost us 9 M a year for setimental reasons. Only one player will ever get that kind of treatment, and that's Del piero. He's a club symbol and even he was close to leaving at one point.

It's a tough reality but it's the only one we have, Trez is getting old and maybe he has a couple of seasons left him in which he probably not be able to perform so well in due to lack of fitness. But no, fuck buying a talented young prospect, let's just let Trez rot in the bench for two more seasons.

That's going to get us a Champions League.

 

[.zero]

For the good of the team, then yes.

Again, if people are supporting the name on the back, and not the front, then so be it. Its their choice

you know i am with you on this point.

my argument is that i don't believe david is outplayed from our lineup. the guy was injured. he shouldn't have to prove himself over an over again. if things don't work out this upcoming season then sell. we're apparently not getting much value for him now then whats the hurt in utilizing a human weapon to its full potential while we can?

 

[AvoAchdjian]

Here is a great group for Rossi on Facebook. They provide you with some interesting facts about the player.

http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=92122739795&ref=mf

pathetic

 

[RavaneVialli]

You find me a Man Utd or Barca fan who wants David Treeguet and I'll mail you my nutsack.

Maher.


I'll send you my address via PM.

 

[bianconero]

you know i am with you on this point.

my argument is that i don't believe david is outplayed from our lineup. the guy was injured. he shouldn't have to prove himself over an over again. if things don't work out this upcoming season then sell. we're apparently not getting much value for him now then whats the hurt in utilizing a human weapon to its full potential while we can?

Quite right, if all the strikers are fit he would start.

 

[juve901]

He IS???

no, I believe it's a spicy sun-tan.:drill:

 

[Bjerknes]

That's debatable dude.

And remember we're talking about Trez now, not Trez 2 years ago.

No, it is not debatable whatsoever.

When has Amauri shown he has the instinct and calibre of finishing to claim he's better than Trezeguet in that respect? Meaning, show me where he comes close to scoring as many goals as David in one of their top seasons. Then, once you're done that, prove to me that if both players were healthy, Amauri would be the better finisher.

 

[Osman]

Daaamn, I so wanted to call Trezegol my brotha.


P.S You guys are wasting your time with this dude, Trez is our best foreign goalscorer of ALL TIME.

 

[rounder]

ok

and you find me the numbers where amauri matches david's stats at whatever age you would liike to compare. i don't care what club he played for, its all about the numbers

That's your argument.

Find me a Barça or Man U fan who wants Amauri.

It's about fucking numbers. If it were, let's call Paolo Maldini and convince him out of retirement. Listen to yourselves, your being ridiculous. Amauri needs to play a couple of more seasons before he can really prove his worth.

Fine, it's an okay theory. I don't think it's really true, because some people have always been on his case without any mention of those events. But like him or not I think some of these statements of him being inferior to Amauri or Iaq are ludicrous considering what he's done here.
And I didn't mean you, you are "proven" to use a Trez analogy.

That's just the problem Martin. You seem to like twisting words and phrases to suit yourself. I never said he was an inferior player considering Trez's remarkable achievements with Juve in the past, I'm talking about the present and the future. In which cases, yes, IQ and Amauri are probably going to offer more to the team than Trez.