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.zero

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amauri will never rival the scoring productivity that david has garnered. amauri may assist in creating scoring chances but you are comparing apples to oranges.

we can have all the creativity in the world but teams would kill for a player like david to complement all that creativity
 

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berbatov isn't good??? huntelaar?? gilardino??? did you see last year how good pizzaro was in werder??? i agree that these days you see few teams playing with a poacher but a player that can score 1 goal every 2 matches if he is supported well is not useless...

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Trez-type strikers : Berbatov, Huntelaar, Gilardino, Pizzaro. Luca Toni.

Non Trez-type strikers: Rooney, Eto, Ibra, Pato, Henry, Pato, David Villa, Torres.

Who's better? Tough one eh?

its not as simple as that. the fact that you think that pure scorers are becoming inept in the game is indicating that you have a fixed tactical POV and set philosophy on how the game is supposed to be played.
It's not that I have a set philosophy, it's just that when you look at the top leagues around the world. You will clearly see what type of striker is making it, and what stype of striker isn't. That's just the way it is, goal poachers like Trez are taking up the space of players that have more to their game than finishing.
 

Martin

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That's what I meant when I said two years ago. I consider us to be in 09-10. 07-08 would be 2 years ago, no?

Amauri used to play for teams like Palermo and Chievo, let's not forget that.
So 2 years ago means 12 months? You have a very strange notion of time.

Let's not, and how does that speak in his favor exactly? I'm not really out to bash Amauri, but the attitude towards Trez that lots of people are expressing here disgusts me. He's been with us longer than Nedved, and yet Nedved gets the farewell of a hero at his retirement while Trez is being shoved out the back door? And then people have the audacity to complain about the lack of loyalty players have to their clubs.

Yes, Cannavaro is the disgusting traitor. But let's ditch Trez without thinking twice.
 
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With Diego pulling the strings and hopefully we bring some width to the side, then Trez is the main man if fit (and if he so injury prone who would take him, as he won't pass the medical), and can and would score 20 goals, which neither of the others can.
 
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And why was he playing for teams like Palermo and Chievo instead of a top team?
That's irrelevant. Ronaldinho played for PSG despite being one of the world's top talents back then. Molinaro is playing for Juve, does that make him a great player?

amauri will never rival the scoring productivity that david has garnered. amauri may assist in creating scoring chances but you are comparing apples to oranges.

we can have all the creativity in the world but teams would kill for a player like david to complement all that creativity
Yeah, I'm sure Barcelona and Man United are fucking themselves right in the ass for not having David Trezeguet. :tup:
 

.zero

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So 2 years ago means 12 months? You have a very strange notion of time.

Let's not, and how does that speak in his favor exactly? I'm not really out to bash Amauri, but the attitude towards Trez that lots of people are expressing here disgusts me. He's been with us longer than Nedved, and yet Nedved gets the farewell of a hero at his retirement while Trez is being shoved out the back door?
:agree:
 

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So 2 years ago means 12 months? You have a very strange notion of time.

Let's not, and how does that speak in his favor exactly? I'm not really out to bash Amauri, but the attitude towards Trez that lots of people are expressing here disgusts me. He's been with us longer than Nedved, and yet Nedved gets the farewell of a hero at his retirement while Trez is being shoved out the back door?

The same Trezeguet that had to be coaxed out of leaving for Barcelona 2004, and basically made every sort of gesture imaginable at the end of the 2006 season that he wanted to leave??


Just making sure we have the same guy here, Martin.
 
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So 2 years ago means 12 months? You have a very strange notion of time.

Let's not, and how does that speak in his favor exactly? I'm not really out to bash Amauri, but the attitude towards Trez that lots of people are expressing here disgusts me. He's been with us longer than Nedved, and yet Nedved gets the farewell of a hero at his retirement while Trez is being shoved out the back door? And then people have the audacity to complain about the lack of loyalty players have to their clubs.

Yes, Cannavaro is the disgusting traitor. But let's ditch Trez without thinking twice.
He's black.
 

.zero

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That's irrelevant. Ronaldinho played for PSG despite being one of the world's top talents back then. Molinaro is playing for Juve, does that make him a great player?



Yeah, I'm sure Barcelona and Man United are fucking themselves right in the ass for not having David Trezeguet. :tup:
i doubt any club wouldn't pine to have him in their lineup

yet the ungrateful juve fans feel that trez is a casualty.

his productivity is unrivaled, the numbers are there to prove it and yet the short term memory seems to come into play for some odd reason
 

KB824

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i doubt any club wouldn't pine to have him in their lineup

yet the ungrateful juve fans feel that trez is a casualty.

his productivity is unrivaled, the numbers are there to prove it and yet the short term memory seems to come into play for some odd reason

I'm sure you've heard of the old sports saying "I'd rather trade someone a year too early than a year too late"
 

Martin

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The same Trezeguet that had to be coaxed out of leaving for Barcelona 2004, and basically made every sort of gesture imaginable at the end of the 2006 season that he wanted to leave??


Just making sure we have the same guy here, Martin.
I see, so it's one gesture and you're blacklisted for life? Pardon me for saying this, but you seem to be very comfortable with taking one event in 5 years and holding it over someone forever. I don't happen to subscribe to that, I was the one defending Zidane from the mob around here when he left too. Apparently to some people one bad thing wipes out everything good a person has ever done.

So yes, despite his signals to leave that have appeared maybe not every summer but at least several of them, I still hold his achievements at Juve at a higher regard. This must be shocking to someone who's only capable of holding one concept in their mind at any one time (not talking to you here).
 

.zero

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The same Trezeguet that had to be coaxed out of leaving for Barcelona 2004, and basically made every sort of gesture imaginable at the end of the 2006 season that he wanted to leave??


Just making sure we have the same guy here, Martin.
the guy was pissed to play in the minor leagues of pro soccer. he was blocked from leaving and our board didn't want to pay him what he was worth even though they forced to keep him. wouldn't you be pissed?
 

Mohad

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Trezeguet is a more lethal finisher, his positioning is way better than Amauri. I'll take goals over skills anytime!

Amauri is more physical, faster and could dribble from time to time. But he needs 5 chances to score a goal.

We don't need a new striker now, we need to strenghten the rest of the team. Our problem isn't the strikers, the problem is the lack of ability to deliver the ball properly to them.
 
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That's irrelevant. Ronaldinho played for PSG despite being one of the world's top talents back then. Molinaro is playing for Juve, does that make him a great player?



Yeah, I'm sure Barcelona and Man United are fucking themselves right in the ass for not having David Trezeguet. :tup:
No you are right, Man utd are going to break the bank for Amauri to replace Ronaldo.
 
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So 2 years ago means 12 months? You have a very strange notion of time.

Let's not, and how does that speak in his favor exactly? I'm not really out to bash Amauri, but the attitude towards Trez that lots of people are expressing here disgusts me. He's been with us longer than Nedved, and yet Nedved gets the farewell of a hero at his retirement while Trez is being shoved out the back door? And then people have the audacity to complain about the lack of loyalty players have to their clubs.

Yes, Cannavaro is the disgusting traitor. But let's ditch Trez without thinking twice.
Two seasons ago, there, you happy?

It's irrelevant. You don't have to be at a great club to be considered a great talent. Look at players like Cassano, David Villa etc..

Let's cut this sentimental bullshit. I don't hate Trez, I wouldn't be a Juve fan if I did. I'm just being realistic here. The guy earns 9 M per year, and he's perobably going to be a sub. He's 32 years old now and he's no getting any younger. Iaquinta is just as productive as him right now and even has that little extra drive that Trez lacks.

I think it would be for both Trez's and Juve's best interest to part.

Trez would join Villareal, he would get regular playing time. He would be playing under less pressure against less defensive teams. He would be much happier.

Juve would be able to buy G.Rossi, Italy's brightest young talent. We would be able to cut our wages drastically in the coming years with Trez gone. And a team consisting of Amauri, Rossi, Del piero, Diego, Camoranesi, Giovinco is just mouthwatering to say the least. We would probably have the most creative squad in Italy.

Who would have thought it?
 

pierrelb

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Although Rossi might mean the end of Giovinco's and Treze's carrier with Juve.
I do prefer him to Cassano...
i don't think rossi would affect gio. with the formation shift we've been hearing about, diego would play behind a front 2. gio would b the alternate to diego and rossi for DP. anyone think differently??

i think i pulled the wrong quote
 
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