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[Azzurri7]

Chelsea is not a football, but DP is a football?

What this has to do with what I just said?

 

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[Alen]

Barcelona kept believing and playing till the last second. It's part of the game.

I agree. But you forget that Chelsea also kept believing even after the conceded goal. They created a chance for Ballack, he shot the ball, it was going towards the goal, but Keita (was it him?) stopped it with his hand.
It must have been a penalty, deliberate handball or not, it must have been a penalty.

Just put Juve in Chelsea's situation and tell me if you'd have asked for a penalty (not only you, everyone here) if a Barca player stopped Del Piero's shot that way?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

fuck them both as far as i am concerned, but to say that chelsea was robbed or deserved to win is outrageously exaggerated

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

not if nas can do something about it

Word up.

As if this wasn't known from the beginning.


Antares, give me a break please. The robbery couldn't have been more clear. The red card was clean as a tear and not giving the penalties was as scandalous as it gets.
Barcelona were outplayed in every possible way tonight. Season-wise, yes, Barcelona deserved to be where they are, but against Chelsea in 180 minutes, nope, not at all. The better team of the two was eliminated by the referee.

Forza Milan, mes que un club

 

[Martin]

What this has to do with what I just said?

You said "That's not a football." for no apparent reason and I have no idea what that had to do with your post. I could have asked but instead I made you laugh. You're welcome

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I agree. But you forget that Chelsea also kept believing even after the conceded goal. They created a chance for Ballack, he shot the ball, it was going towards the goal, but Keita (was it him?) stopped it with his hand.
It must have been a penalty, deliberate handball or not, it must have been a penalty.

Just put Juve in Chelsea's situation and tell me if you'd have asked for a penalty (not only you, everyone here) if a Barca player stopped Del Piero's shot that way?

back to the ball at the 95th minute? no sane un-moggi tampered ref will call that

 

[Bisco]

I agree. But you forget that Chelsea also kept believing even after the conceded goal. They created a chance for Ballack, he shot the ball, it was going towards the goal, but Keita (was it him?) stopped it with his hand.
It must have been a penalty, deliberate handball or not, it must have been a penalty.

Just put Juve in Chelsea's situation and tell me if you'd have asked for a penalty (not only you, everyone here) if a Barca player stopped Del Piero's shot that way?

thank you, thats what ive been trying to get thru

 

[Stephan]

If it would be juve id care, but it isnt.

would be, could be, should be bla bla.

f--k them both. Lets see if Uefa will take further actions on banning certain players.

 

[Henry]

I think the real story is that everyone is a classless jackass given the right circumstances (not everyone, but broadly speaking a lot of people, know what I mean?). And this kind of finger pointing doesn't really inform very much, because all it does is assert that tonight Drogba and Ballack were put in that position, but if it were Barcelona instead then don't try to tell me the shoe wouldn't be on the other foot. There would be a couple players on the other team doing the same thing when you're about to lose out on a final that you almost made.

This is a story you're telling yourself. You have a certain belief and you're looking for evidence to reinforce it. You're not doing this in any way objectively.

no, i never thought ballack was that bad. Drogba, IS, and you know it. I'm not trying to mold his behaviour to fit my paradigm, anyone that watches him can see. He's whiny, he dives, he bitches, and he should have scored. pathetic. Just because I already knew that he was a cunt doesn't negate what his behaviour showed. And don't give me that about how "drogba and ballack were put in that position" because that's the point, one shows one's character, or lack thereof, in such situations. I'm sure some barca players would have behaved badly HAD the shoe been on the other foot, and I would have condemned it. I don't watch barca enough to know who is/isn't like that, but with Chelsea, I knew that drogba was completely classless, and show he proved. Just because I already thought that he was a cunt doesn't mean that my berating for being one today was inaccurate

 

[Esteban]

Etoo's "handball" on Ballacks shot wasn't a penalty, Pique's was clear as a day and in a way Chelsea were robbed there yes. But, that chance would have never been created if Barca wasn't left with 3 men in defense due to a sending off that didn't exist. Abidal didn't touch Anelka and he wasn't alone with the keeper. So I guess it evens out.

 

[JCK]

If it would be juve id care, but it isnt.

would be, could be, should be bla bla.

f--k them both. Lets see if Uefa will take further actions on banning certain players.

They'll ban the referee for one match.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

As if this wasn't known from the beginning.


Antares, give me a break please. The robbery couldn't have been more clear. The red card was clean as a tear and not giving the penalties was as scandalous as it gets.
Barcelona were outplayed in every possible way tonight. Season-wise, yes, Barcelona deserved to be where they are, but against Chelsea in 180 minutes, nope, not at all. The better team of the two was eliminated by the referee.

he didnt even touch him, how is it red? the only penalty none given was pique's. to me it evens out; finally and more importantly chelsea CHOKED they were a man up and leading in the score and couldnt close the game which is their staple supposedly. At any rate i dont care for either team but barca deserved to go through for the simple fact that they played football instead of chelsea's constant diving whining and crying

 

[Alen]

back to the ball at the 95th minute? no sane un-moggi tampered ref will call that

What does it matter when did it happen? You stop the ball going towards the goal with your hand. Unintentiona, back to the ball...nothing matters here.
And the first penalty?

And i can't believe most of you think that Abidal's foul wasn't a red card.

Barcelona was outplayed tonight. Stop looking at the ball possession to see who played better. Chelsea defended better, created chances more easily, controlled the game from minute 1 almost till the end. Barcelona had to go for a goal but couldn't even come close, while Chelsea made Barca play Chelsea's game, where Barcelona will be given useless possession and Chelsea can attack and create on counters.
Barcelona were outplayed, i thought at least that was obvious.

 

[Azzurri7]

I agree. But you forget that Chelsea also kept believing even after the conceded goal. They created a chance for Ballack, he shot the ball, it was going towards the goal, but Keita (was it him?) stopped it with his hand.
It must have been a penalty, deliberate handball or not, it must have been a penalty.

Just put Juve in Chelsea's situation and tell me if you'd have asked for a penalty (not only you, everyone here) if a Barca player stopped Del Piero's shot that way?

Chelsea's come back after they conceded was pretty too late. Not to forget Barcelona were one man down.

C'mon man, that was anything but a penalty. Only an immature referee would blow his whistle for the Ballack incident.

I myself would have insulted the ref and bitched starting today till Sunday had it been Del Piero, because I'm very biased person when my team is playing.

But tonight, I had no fav team nor I like any of them, it's not even 5 % a penalty call and that would have been a real robbery.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Etoo's "handball" on Ballacks shot wasn't a penalty, Pique's was clear as a day and in a way Chelsea were robbed there yes. But, that chance would have never been created if Barca wasn't left with 3 men in defense due to a sending off that didn't exist. Abidal didn't touch Anelka and he wasn't alone with the keeper. So I guess it evens out.

exactly my point! and imo it was the only real PK non called

 

[C4ISR]

I think it's disgusting the amount of freedom given to players to harass the ref. These are grown men who get paid millions of dollars, yet they swarm the ref even when they know their teammate is faking.

 

[Azzurri7]

You said "That's not a football." for no apparent reason and I have no idea what that had to do with your post. I could have asked but instead I made you laugh. You're welcome

I was referring to Chelsea men running behind the ref and almost raping him each time he doesn't blow his whistle for them.

 

[Henry]

Barcelona was outplayed tonight. Stop looking at the ball possession to see who played better. Chelsea defended better, created chances more easily, controlled the game from minute 1 almost till the end. Barcelona had to go for a goal but couldn't even come close, while Chelsea made Barca play Chelsea's game, where Barcelona will be given useless possession and Chelsea can attack and create on counters.
Barcelona were outplayed, i thought at least that was obvious.

most of what you say is true, to say that chelsea controlled the match is idiotic. control is something positive, where as chelsea were negative in the sense of trying to STOP barca.

 

[Martin]

I was referring to Chelsea men running behind the ref and almost raping him each time he doesn't blow his whistle for them.

And "that's not a football" apparently.

Btw your use of the term "rape" doesn't fit any dictionary on the planet.

 

[JCK]

On a more serious note, I predict the end of Chelsea after this match. Abramovic will lose interest even more. Many players will be sold. It's all downhill for the blues from here. And guess what, it will be the start of a new era where English teams won't dominate in Europe as they did recently.