[EU] Champions League 2008/2009 (18 Viewers)

[Martin]

most of what you say is true, to say that chelsea controlled the match is idiotic. control is something positive, where as chelsea were negative in the sense of trying to STOP barca.

"Control is something positive"? Where on earth did you get that idiom from?

 

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[Henry]

if ballack chased after me like that, i'd scream RAPE! (Attempted)

 

[Elvin]

On a more serious note, I predict the end of Chelsea after this match. Abramovic will lose interest even more. Many players will be sold. It's all downhill for the blues from here. And guess what, it will be the start of a new era where English teams won't dominate in Europe as they did recently.

Yep. this group is traumatized with no return. I can't help but wander what if Terry didn't miss that penalty a year ago..

 

[GordoDeCentral]

What does it matter when did it happen? You stop the ball going towards the goal with your hand. Unintentiona, back to the ball...nothing matters here.
And the first penalty?

And i can't believe most of you think that Abidal's foul wasn't a red card.

Barcelona was outplayed tonight. Stop looking at the ball possession to see who played better. Chelsea defended better, created chances more easily, controlled the game from minute 1 almost till the end. Barcelona had to go for a goal but couldn't even come close, while Chelsea made Barca play Chelsea's game, where Barcelona will be given useless possession and Chelsea can attack and create on counters.
Barcelona were outplayed, i thought at least that was obvious.

i almost always agree with you, but you re being a bit biased here. Chelsea scored a very very very lucky goal, and were a man up on, for your sake, dubious decision. That mongoloid alves made sure every barca attack was futile but they kept at it which was very impressive even the coach left him on and they didnt give up even if from their perspective they were hard done by the ref. instead of the chelsea crybabies who would prolly go to the hague for this. Barca might not have played the prettiest football but they certainly taught chelsea a lesson on how to behave on the pitch.

 

[Martin]

if ballack chased after me like that, i'd scream RAPE! (Attempted)

Then you are the most paranoid and delusional referee ever.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

On a more serious note, I predict the end of Chelsea after this match. Abramovic will lose interest even more. Many players will be sold. It's all downhill for the blues from here. And guess what, it will be the start of a new era where English teams won't dominate in Europe as they did recently.

 

[Azzurri7]

And "that's not a football" apparently.

Btw your use of the term "rape" doesn't fit any dictionary on the planet.

Well, I'm always open to "corrections". I learn fast.

 

[JCK]

Yep. this group is traumatized with no return. I can't help but wander what if Terry didn't miss that penalty a year ago..

It would have been Chelsea domination. It would only give Abramovic more desire. But you used a great word describing the team "traumatized", from the owner to the water boy.

 

[Henry]

"Control is something positive"? Where on earth did you get that idiom from?

i don't mean positive in the sense of "good" but rather that one's actions are directly and consciously influencing precedings within whatever the boundaries of the situation are, while one's own actions are NOT reactionary, within reason

 

[Alen]

most of what you say is true, to say that chelsea controlled the match is idiotic. control is something positive, where as chelsea were negative in the sense of trying to STOP barca.

Control the game= having things under control = going according to the plan.
Chelsea were doing everything according to the plan. Give them possession far from the goal, counter whenever there is a chance for that. Only the poor finishing betrayed them. I mean, not a single shot on target for Barca and not a singe shot close to the goal for 93 minutes. They could have played without Cech.

Stop thinking that having ball possession means outplaying the others and having the control of the game. Barca couldn't play their game, Chelsea could. That means that Chelsea had the control.....until that 93rd minute goal, that is. :smile:

 

[Martin]

Well, I'm always open to "corrections". I learn fast.

Let me requote that for you.

Well, I'm "always" "open" to "corrections". I "learn" "fast".

There. Now it's a much more interesting phrase to ponder the possible meaning of it.

 

[Henry]

Then you are the most paranoid and delusional referee ever.

i didn't mean as a referee

 

[Stephan]

On a more serious note, I predict the end of Chelsea after this match. Abramovic will lose interest even more. Many players will be sold. It's all downhill for the blues from here. And guess what, it will be the start of a new era where English teams won't dominate in Europe as they did recently.

Starting with Moratti buying Drog and Essien?


all hail Moratti.

 

[Martin]

i don't mean positive in the sense of "good" but rather that one's actions are directly and consciously influencing precedings within whatever the boundaries of the situation are, while one's own actions are NOT reactionary, within reason

So if you build a dam on a river you're not in control. Interesting.

 

[Stephan]

Benny Hill style.

 

[Martin]

i didn't mean as a referee

So you're talking about a completely hypothetical scenario the probability of which is zero and consequently describing your own response to it. Invaluable.

 

[Henry]

Control the game= having things under control = going according to the plan.
Chelsea were doing everything according to the plan. Give them possession far from the goal, counter whenever there is a chance for that. Only the poor finishing betrayed them. I mean, not a single shot on target for Barca and not a singe shot close to the goal for 93 minutes. They could have played without Cech.

Stop thinking that having ball possession means outplaying the others and having the control of the game. Barca couldn't play their game, Chelsea could. That means that Chelsea had the control.....until that 93rd minute goal, that is. :smile:

having things going to plan is NOT control. I didn't say barca outplayed chelsea, that would implie that chelsea played. nor did I say that barca's possession meant that they outplayed chelsea. chelsea's plan worked well, no doubt about it, but they neither played football, nor controlled the match

 

[Azzurri7]

Let me requote that for you.



There. Now it's a much more interesting phrase to ponder the possible meaning of it.

Good one I must admit

 

[Henry]

So if you build a dam on a river you're not in control. Interesting.

one can try and control, but control of nature is statistically impossible i would say in that case, one has control until one loses it

So you're talking about a completely hypothetical scenario the probability of which is zero and consequently describing your own response to it. Invaluable.

in other words Martin, it was a joke

 

[Zé Tahir]

one can try and control, but control of nature is statistically impossible i would say in that case, one has control until one loses it






in other words Martin, it was a joke

Oh ffs, rebuttal man! Rebuttal!