hows it well said when it ignores the most important aspect of the equation, the limit.
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Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (24 Viewers)
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it's not god's faith or perfection we are talking about but your, as a human being, faith in god, so it must come from you ... and your mind, your limited mind, must be part of the process. Unless you are implying you are god's equal and reside in or have access to the "place beyond the mind"?
And would really appreciate a more tangible answer not just another biblical prose ... you know, something coming from your mind not something your mind is merely reproducing.
And would really appreciate a more tangible answer not just another biblical prose ... you know, something coming from your mind not something your mind is merely reproducing.
of the God isnt, most people who talk about religion on here are atheists
that is not reassurance, a believer is firm and unshaken in his conviction unlike you in a foxhole
he talked about HIS limit, yet you saw it adequate to move it for him and interpret it the way it fit your argument, typical really.
unlike believers who can't breathe even without incessantly looking for instruction in a certain book
he talked about HIS limit, yet you saw it adequate to move it for him and interpret it the way it fit your argument, typical really.
of the God isnt, most people who talk about religion on here are atheists
that is not reassurance, a believer is firm and unshaken in his conviction unlike you in a foxhole
he talked about HIS limit, yet you saw it adequate to move it for him and interpret it the way it fit your argument, typical really.
that is not reassurance, a believer is firm and unshaken in his conviction unlike you in a foxhole
he talked about HIS limit, yet you saw it adequate to move it for him and interpret it the way it fit your argument, typical really.
well, if you saw an ongoing mass delusion, would it not make you chatty about it? we don't have special buildings where we go to talk about this stuff specifically, so it's whatever opportunity comes up
why would you be in a fox hole? isn't that where the fox is supposed to be?
that is not reassurance, a believer is firm and unshaken in his conviction unlike you in a foxhole
Just because you assume its a mass delusion or find that as the best answer for something you can't explain , doesn't make it so. The problem with most non believers is just because they don't or can't bring themselves to believe. It automatically makes believers wrong or delusional or irratuonal. In the end neither are true
Well, I do think it's a delusion. Or actually, I don't even think that. I think (suspect at least) that most so called believers have never lined up the theological pillars of their religion and asked themselves "is this true". Just like most people who go to a political rally, say, don't ask themselves "is Obama really a good candidate", they just join in because so many other people are doing it and imitate relatively mindlessly. I know that's what I was doing for years.
that is not reassurance, a believer is firm and unshaken in his conviction unlike you in a foxhole
After that you go into a fact versus faith argument which will never be decided, unwavering faith is one thing, but explaining your faith, your religion and why your religious texts are the right ones is a hot topic to debate. For atheists it is all a load of nonsense, a man made concept to control growing populations through love, awe and fear to adhere to a moral code, and the aspect of belief is the only interesting debate. What book it comes from is irrelevant, as is each religion.
