Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (35 Viewers)

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AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,125
I think you're talking nonsense. What is it that "real Juventus fans" supposedly believe in?
I think your either faking it or you're a bit of a simpleton. Real Juventus fans believe in Juve the club the history the institution. They don't walk away during calciopoli and come back when its easy to be a fan. Therefore real believers in faith don't just believe when its easy. When there is unsubstantiated proof or when miracles abound
 

LowLife

Senior Member
Jan 7, 2011
4,967
juve my wife, boca my mistress
Glad to know that. :D
I think your a bit of a simpleton. Real Juventus fans believe in Juve the club the history the institution. They don't walk away during calciopoli and come back when its easy to be a fan. Smarten up man
He knows it, of course he does, he just playing mind games till you fall into his traps.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
56,913
Edited first comment please reread
I'll say what I've been saying for 10 years except you weren't hear to read it so it's your first time. I think the whole real Juve fan is a completely pathetic perspective through which to disparage people for having a different experience of being a fan than you do. It is of course the least surprising thing in the world that the same people who follow one club and thus purport to hate rival teams also like to subdivide themselves further into real fans and outcasts. It's tribalism at its purest and for a long time I thought it was fascinating, now it just bores me.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,125
I'll say what I've been saying for 10 years except you weren't hear to read it so it's your first time. I think the whole real Juve fan is a completely pathetic perspective through which to disparage people for having a different experience of being a fan than you do. It is of course the least surprising thing in the world that the same people who follow one club and thus purport to hate rival teams also like to subdivide themselves further into real fans and outcasts. It's tribalism at its purest and for a long time I thought it was fascinating, now it just bores me.
I don't hate any club and am not trivializing anyone. To me a fan is thick and thin , top and bottom. If they don't feel that way they aren't a real fan. A real fan doesn't switch clubs because their favorite player leaves. The real fan is there for the shirt the colors and the club always.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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I don't hate any club and am not trivializing anyone. To me a fan is thick and thin , top and bottom. If they don't feel that way they aren't a real fan. A real fan doesn't switch clubs because their favorite player leaves. The real fan is there for the shirt the colors and the club always.
Idolizer !
 

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