Cristiano Ronaldo (143 Viewers)

Jan 22, 2016
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I was thinking that if Ronaldo leaves.. is very "ironic"... that the posible GOAT of all time will probably not be in any "best Juventus eleven" in history...

Thats very strange if you ask me.
I would surly put Tevez ahead of him.

He was the most complete attacker we had since pre 99del peiro injury.

Tevez was a beast. god sent a gift to all of us.
 

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MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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You have to take a step back and ask yourself, has this transfer been worth it? We have spent 345m on this guy in total. We are penny-pinching in midfield with signings like Ramsey, Rabiot and McKennie because we can’t afford anything better due to Ronaldo’s ludicrous wages. Has all that been worth it for what Ronaldo has given us on the pitch?
Ramsey and Rabiot are on 7M net each. So we obviously CAN afford better but we just gave the money to the wrong players.

Don't forget that CR7 spent multiple years with MATUIDI beside him.

I don't see how anyone can question what Ronaldo has given us on the pitch. He plays as many matches as possible and he scores. That's his job. The rest is not his job.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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You have to take a step back and ask yourself, has this transfer been worth it? We have spent 345m on this guy in total. We are penny-pinching in midfield with signings like Ramsey, Rabiot and McKennie because we can’t afford anything better due to Ronaldo’s ludicrous wages. Has all that been worth it for what Ronaldo has given us on the pitch?
good point.

my coounter:

Higgy, Khedira, Pjanic, Bentancur, Douglas Costa, De Sciglio, Rugani, were signed before ronaldo was here.

my point is juventus is perofmring poor because it's been poor decisinn making in general, regardless of ronaldo.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
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Ramsey and Rabiot are on 7M net each. So we obviously CAN afford better but we just gave the money to the wrong players.
Those players might be on high wages but they were also signed for free, so at the end of the day, the overall investment on them isn’t that expensive.

If we want a truly top tier midfielder, we will need to spend big (around 80m) for someone like Pogba, Milinkovic-Savic, or Aouar. As long as Ronaldo is eating up 60m in wages per year, that is simply not possible.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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People can't grasp that Juve have only ever been good in Europe under Allegri and Lippi. Europe doesn't bode well with us for some reason. Don't blame Ronaldo with the terrible management and players we put him with. Although I genuinely think Allegri would have done well with this team. Mae's me think what Cheisa would have achieved.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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Those players might be on high wages but they were also signed for free, so at the end of the day, the overall investment on them isn’t that expensive.

If we want a truly top tier midfielder, we will need to spend big (around 80m) for someone like Pogba, Milinkovic-Savic, or Aouar. As long as Ronaldo is eating up 60m in wages per year, that is simply not possible.
Berna and Kulu is 80M. Problem solved.

(Ronaldo also increases your revenue btw).
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
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Is this the kind of night we pretend the guy who been averaging a goal a game for near past 3 years, has been the issue all along lol.
I'm not blaming him personally, but I think him being here is a huge mismanagement of resources considering the state of our squad over the past few years. I do not believe that our situation can change when the club is paying him €60M/year.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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I'm not blaming him personally, but I think him being here is a huge mismanagement of resources considering the state of our squad over the past few years. I do not believe that our situation can change when the club is paying him €60M/year.
A huge mismanagement of resources is giving 30M net to Ramsey, Rabiot, Bonucci, Khedira and Bernardeschi. Because I would rather give 30M net to Ronaldo then to that group..
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,820
Well I think it does because I just gave you an extra 30M net in budget that you were complaining about.
One player gets paid that of five, this is what I'm saying. The fact that Rabiot and Ramsey are on €7M a season is because they were "free" and Paratici is a moron, but this does not show that you cannot build a better squad. I personally think we would be better off with two top class midfielders on €15M/year than a 36 year old Ronaldo on €30M.

But at the end of the day, I have little faith in Paratici to revamp this squad regardless so I guess it doesn't really matter.
 

Pegi

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Feb 22, 2019
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He’s not the problem and he had pretty damn good scoring record with us, considering the amount of chances we create compared to other top teams in the world. It’s just that he’s so much more professional than all the other guys we have. He’s never injuried, he’s fully focused and he wants to win every game and once we got team full of players that are happy to have the paycheck, he’s suffering.

I think the era of professional players are becoming to its end. I mean, they’re technically pro’s just because it’s their job, but their level of professionalism on and off the field is becoming more and more less, just because all the temptations around. Sad.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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I wouldnt mind selling but no club will add his 30m salary during this crisis. So he's probably staying.

The negatives are becoming painful. Still has a greal goal scoring record, but the only bit of grinta thats left in him is when he's in a good scoring position. Sometimes its really frustrating to see him not getting passed his marker and slowing down our attacks. He does not have that determination in his dribbles anymore. Also his defensive work rate is far below level, but thats nothing new.

He's probably out form as this tight schedule becomes to heavy as his age, but the special Ronaldo treatment doesnt allow us to sub him in-game so we're basically stuck with him.

He should accept a less prominent role. He remains good enough for 80% of the games, and if a offer arrives, which I doubt, we should accept it. Last summer that allows us to receive some money for him. We should be building around Chiesa, Dybala and De Ligt
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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I love seeing him in our jersey BUT he has put additional pressure on the club that already had by far most pressure in CL - the "even Ronaldo cant win at Juve".

My conclusion: this transfer was a shortime (only) marketing success, short and long time sporting mistake.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
If he must be sacrificed to rebuild, then so be it.

I support Juventus FC not Ronaldo United.

By the time the battle for the CL QFs rolls around next year, he's going to be 37. Yes, he's Ronaldo, but he's also human and still a man.

We need to call time on this failed experiment (a success marketing wise, but an abject failure in terms of results on the pitch).

The only issue is who is going to pay anything for Ronaldo with his contract up in 2022, and with his insane wages a stumbling block, even for top tier teams.
 

Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
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He is least of our worryes... He is trying, running in, but our midfield is not capable of feeding him with the balls. Just like morata, they are both 10 times in a game caught offside and not because of their mistakes but passes from midfiled. At real modric, kros and casemiro was feeding him, here bentancur, rabiot and ramsey cant even feed them self.
 

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