Cristiano Ronaldo (76 Viewers)

Jun 16, 2020
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If we offloaded ronaldo ramsey and rabiot that would actually be €88m on salaries, is that correct?

Really is a no brainer considering we are completely fucked financially.

Ronaldo is a legend and no one will deny that. We were lucky to have him.

Will he get that salary in europe elsewhere? What would we get for him?
We need ~30m in order to not record a loss, and the buying club also gets his salary. It’s a big investment during this time for any club. Usually you’d consider the MLS as a logical step, do they have the money there to finance him?
 

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Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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As someone rightly pointed out, I don't think there's any club right now that would pay the required €30M transfer fee and his €30M wages so I think he's definitely sticking around for another year.

If we have to look at the positives this season, our front trio of Chiesa-Ronaldo-Morata have been one of our brighter spots so let's stick with that for another year atleast.

But absolutely no to selling Ronaldo if we can't get a prolific goalscorer. His overall gameplay is eroding quickly but his numbers don't lie. He's still a guarantee to give you 30 goals a season and for that alone he should be kept for another year.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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I don't care about the money and his salary. This guy is a very good player and can play at least as long as Ibrakadabra.

Sell 10-12 players who are useless and save some wages but releasing Ronaldo would be very naive.
Ronaldo is not worth 10-12 players. At a stretch, he's worth 3 or so, but sacrificing 10-12 players to accommodate one Ronaldo is suicidal. Who are you going to have come off the bench then?
 

JuveJay

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We need ~30m in order to not record a loss, and the buying club also gets his salary. It’s a big investment during this time for any club. Usually you’d consider the MLS as a logical step, do they have the money there to finance him?
I'm sure if a big market team in the US put together a package the MLS would support them in any way to bring a player like Ronaldo to the league.

We won't get a penny in transfer fees for him, of course...
 

IlCapitano

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Dec 16, 2012
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You have to take a step back and ask yourself, has this transfer been worth it? We have spent 345m on this guy in total. We are penny-pinching in midfield with signings like Ramsey, Rabiot and McKennie because we can’t afford anything better due to Ronaldo’s ludicrous wages. Has all that been worth it for what Ronaldo has given us on the pitch?
Ronaldo is not stopping us from signing anyone.

The summer we bought him we bought Cancelo for a big fee and gave big wages to Can.

Summer after we gave huge wages to Rabiot and Ramsey and signed De Ligt for a huge fee and wages, signed Arthur for huge fee and wages, signed Demiral, Danilo, Chiesa, Morata, McKennie. Signed Khedira, Matuidi and Mario to new contracts and could afford to cut ties with them soon after.

Finances are not the problem. Bad planning and spending money literally everywhere else but midfield is.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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Ronaldo is not stopping us from signing anyone.

The summer we bought him we bought Cancelo for a big fee and gave big wages to Can.

Summer after we gave huge wages to Rabiot and Ramsey and signed De Ligt for a huge fee and wages, signed Arthur for huge fee and wages, signed Demiral, Danilo, Chiesa, Morata, McKennie. Signed Khedira, Matuidi and Mario to new contracts and could afford to cut ties with them soon after.

Finances are not the problem. Bad planning and spending money literally everywhere else but midfield is.
You’re fooling yourself if you think that we don’t have financial problems
 

IlCapitano

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Dec 16, 2012
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You’re fooling yourself if you think that we don’t have financial problems
Every club has some problems because of covid. I am saying we do not have problems as being presented where Ronaldo is supposedly the problem, stopping us from spending, getting better players etc.

Logic behind sacking Allegri was it is easier to fire one coach than change 10-15 players. The only midfielder Allegri coached on this team is Bentancur. Chiellini, Bonucci, Sandro, Ronaldo, Cuadrado, Bernardeschi only other players who were here when Allegri left. That is almost the entire team changed in 2 years. This is not a club with major financial problems.
 

Tomate

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Jul 19, 2014
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Liverpool, Chelsea, United, City, Barca and Real are all looking for strikers/top goal scorers next summer. PSG as well in case they sell Mbappe to one of the mentioned teams.

Good luck finding a Ronaldo replacement in that environment that makes up for his goal contribution that we would lose. Look around and name realistic names we could get, it's not pretty.

We need to build around Ronaldo, not sell him. We don''t need boat loads of money to do that, we just need to be smarter in the deals we make. Paratici is the main problem.
 
Jun 7, 2003
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Ronaldo is not worth 10-12 players. At a stretch, he's worth 3 or so, but sacrificing 10-12 players to accommodate one Ronaldo is suicidal. Who are you going to have come off the bench then?
Coppa Italia and Serie A play youngsters from bench, try to reach 4th just to secure CL for the next season. Just focus and win the damned CL with Ronaldo.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Liverpool, Chelsea, United, City, Barca and Real are all looking for strikers/top goal scorers next summer. PSG as well in case they sell Mbappe to one of the mentioned teams.

Good luck finding a Ronaldo replacement in that environment that makes up for his goal contribution that we would lose. Look around and name realistic names we could get, it's not pretty.

We need to build around Ronaldo, not sell him. We don''t need boat loads of money to do that, we just need to be smarter in the deals we make. Paratici is the main problem.
Build around Ronaldo? He's 37 years old in February FFS! We've had him for three years and our results on the pitch have regressed. We have deteriorated. Facts!

We reached 2 CL Finals without Ronaldo.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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You guys are delusional and out of your mind if you think two inconsistent strikers leading the line in Dybala and Morata will suddenly make us a better team.
Sell Ronaldo only if you can get a guarantee in return otherwise there is no point. Better to run down his contract and look for options in 2022.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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You guys are delusional and out of your mind if you think two inconsistent strikers leading the line in Dybala and Morata will suddenly make us a better team.
Sell Ronaldo only if you can get a guarantee in return otherwise there is no point. Better to run down his contract and look for options in 2022.
Selling CR7 without guarantees is similar to sacking Allegri and assigning Sarri. Fuck Sarri!
 

Tomate

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Jul 19, 2014
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Build around Ronaldo? He's 37 years old in February FFS! We've had him for three years and our results on the pitch have regressed. We have deteriorated. Facts!

We reached 2 CL Finals without Ronaldo.
The team is not going to be better next season without Ronaldo, that's the point. It will take a couple of years of smart deals to get back to being a team that can reach a final, again with or without Ronaldo.

Getting rid of Ronaldo doesn't mean the club is suddenly swimming in cash by the way, most of that money would be needed to find a replacement in a market where there aren't a lot of options,, but there is immense competition for those options. It shouldn't be underestimated as well as how much of the increase in sponsorship money in the past 3 years can be contributed to Ronaldo, it remains unclear how stable that level of income will be over the next couple of years without Ronaldo.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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The team is not going to be better next season without Ronaldo, that's the point. It will take a couple of years of smart deals to get back to being a team that can reach a final, again with or without Ronaldo.

Getting rid of Ronaldo doesn't mean the club is suddenly swimming in cash by the way, most of that money would be needed to find a replacement in a market where there aren't a lot of options,, but there is immense competition for those options. It shouldn't be underestimated as well as how much of the increase in sponsorship money in the past 3 years can be contributed to Ronaldo, it remains unclear how stable that level of income will be over the next couple of years without Ronaldo.
I'd be fine getting rid of Ronaldo, struggle in attack for a year if it guaranteed we got Haaland after next season. That would be worth another year of struggling.
 

CrimsonianKing

The end of Jihadism
Jan 16, 2013
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As someone rightly pointed out, I don't think there's any club right now that would pay the required €30M transfer fee and his €30M wages so I think he's definitely sticking around for another year.

If we have to look at the positives this season, our front trio of Chiesa-Ronaldo-Morata have been one of our brighter spots so let's stick with that for another year atleast.

But absolutely no to selling Ronaldo if we can't get a prolific goalscorer. His overall gameplay is eroding quickly but his numbers don't lie. He's still a guarantee to give you 30 goals a season and for that alone he should be kept for another year.
Is the Chinese/Arabian market still big spenders post covid? Surely they have the money. Either that or MLS.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Is the Chinese/Arabian market still big spenders post covid? Surely they have the money. Either that or MLS.
Why would Ronaldo, who can still score 30 goals a season in a highly competitive league wind down his career in middle east or China?

I mean I understand the desperation to sell Ronaldo but people need to make some sense. You guys want to offload a guaranteed 30 goal a season output and expect a non existent, injury prone Dybala to suddenly start firing on all cylinders again and an inconsistent Morata to replicate Ronaldo's goal output?

This would be on the same level of stupidity of going from Allegri to Sarri to Pirlo.
 

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