Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (37 Viewers)

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Sorry to hear you're going through that shit. However, I expect similar things to happen in plenty of countries in the near future. Not even surprised much.
It’s weird as shit that they are doing it in Australia though. They have crazy low numbers throughout the entire thing. 900-ish dead in the entire pandemic. Which is like 40 per million.
 

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Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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It’s weird as shit that they are doing it in Australia though. They have crazy low numbers throughout the entire thing. 900-ish dead in the entire pandemic. Which is like 40 per million.
But it's not a new thing. It's not like it came out of nowhere. Ever since covid popped up they had quite strict measures even when nobody had them.

Man, I have a feeling they are in a better position if something drastic happens, like a new variant which will be the biggest media fear ever. They are so drilled they will have no problem while Europe and US are gonna crumble :lol:
 

Salvo

J
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Dec 17, 2007
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But it's not a new thing. It's not like it came out of nowhere. Ever since covid popped up they had quite strict measures even when nobody had them.

Man, I have a feeling they are in a better position if something drastic happens, like a new variant which will be the biggest media fear ever. They are so drilled they will have no problem while Europe and US are gonna crumble
We have such low vaccination rates though.
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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Wearing an eye patch over my eye instead of over my mouth to totally own the libs.
* wash nose daily with warm salt water - use neti pot
* wash hands frequently/ use hand santizer
* eat fresh raw garlic every day-2-5 cloves
* stay home-weak masks if out
* social distance
* take sufficient vit d + kit k2 + zinc + calcium
*stop eating processed/ junk foods & stop overeating and really cut down eating sugar
* exercise daily
* get enough sleep
* meditatie to learn to manage stress
 

Salvo

J
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Dec 17, 2007
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Or maybe they think vaccines won't help much.

Like PI mentioned, you already had low death rate before vaccines.
But vaccines do help hospitalisation rates. Our borders are closed right now that's not viable forever. We need vaccinations the fuckers got complacent because we've done so well. There is no excuse for their incompetence. They put all their eggs in the AZ basket.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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I work with people who are anti test. It can be frustrating at times, especially when they show up at the office sick and legitimately do not understand why they’re being sent home
I’ve come to realize that humans are no different than Covid variants. Most are mutations with no right to survive. The successful ones do. It’s all part of that goddam bountiful cornucopia of life.

It’s easy to say masks, vaccines are untested.

As a physician, I can tell you that I’m tired of seeing Covid and I’m tired of seeing patients die because they couldn’t bother taking some precautions. It’s not fun when you have to go to the family and say I’m sorry that your mom / dad couldn’t make it.
One of my best friends is the head of surgery at Silicon Valley’s biggest public medical center. I loved how he said that his job is basically just preventing natural selection.

How the heck can they justify all that. Your numbers and death toll haven’t even been bad. 34k cases and ~900 deaths in the entire pandemic. That’s insane lol You have my sympathies. Hopefully that shit ends soon.
It’s the zero tolerance approach. On the upside, they were able to avoid the masks and distancing that have been chronic in most places with half-measures that tried to manage their way through the mess.

The downside is that it’s a dam break scenario. And because people were able to be complacent and do “normal life things” for long periods while much of the world hasn’t been able to, vaccinations haven’t had the same urgency until now.

The most dangerous part is that Australasia is like a giant side of beef thrown in a river of piranhas. To the virus, it’s a whole continent of fresh virgin meat it has yet to sink its teeth into.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
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If it was that easy corona would be a thing of a past. Instead, we'll be seeing a new wave in a month or so.

If majority of a nation took vaccine I don't think why would they care about the minority of those who didn't take. Hospitals wouldn't be filled thanks to vaccinated people and their risk is lower, as they claim to be.

Director from AZ already said how they don't know if 3rd dose of vaccine will be needed and time will tell. Some already give 3rd dose (Israel). It's all a testing field and there are no strict rules at this point.

I still think we'll be seeing old picture in a couple of months, despite of all those vaccines that have been rolled out.
First of all: there aren't many countries where (a big) majority has been fully vaccinated, so that's a bit of a moot point right now.
And yes, a 3rd shot or booster shot may very well be useful for "weaker" people, as their antibodies do seem to decrease significantly after 6 or so months.

As for caring about the minority, the point used to be how big that minority actually was. Whereas with the delta variant, a small minority looks like it could be enough for shit to hit the fan once more. So that's why people care. Even more so than 6 months ago, I guess.

Simply put:
Less people vaccinated => more virus circulation => most likely more people sick/in hospital/dead => probably more & more severe lockdowns
&
Less people vaccinated => more virus circulation => higher chances of mutations => higher chance of a mutation for which current vaccines are less efficient => most likely more people sick/in hospital/dead (Talk about a self fulfilling prophecy for the antivax crowd!) => probably more & more severe lockdowns.
&
Less people vaccinated => more virus circulation => the longer there will be all sorts of restrictions
&
...

Now, regardless of how you feel about taking a vaccine, the underlined bits are simple FACTS.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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First of all: there aren't many countries where (a big) majority has been fully vaccinated, so that's a bit of a moot point right now.
And yes, a 3rd shot or booster shot may very well be useful for "weaker" people, as their antibodies do seem to decrease significantly after 6 or so months.

As for caring about the minority, the point used to be how big that minority actually was. Whereas with the delta variant, a small minority looks like it could be enough for shit to hit the fan once more. So that's why people care. Even more so than 6 months ago, I guess.

Simply put:
Less people vaccinated => more virus circulation => most likely more people sick/in hospital/dead => probably more & more severe lockdowns
&
Less people vaccinated => more virus circulation => higher chances of mutations => higher chance of a mutation for which current vaccines are less efficient => most likely more people sick/in hospital/dead (Talk about a self fulfilling prophecy for the antivax crowd!) => probably more & more severe lockdowns.
&
Less people vaccinated => more virus circulation => the longer there will be all sorts of restrictions
&
...

Now, regardless of how you feel about taking a vaccine, the underlined bits are simple FACTS.
But even Iceland at 75% said restrictions might happen for the next 10 years.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,897
But even Iceland at 75% said restrictions might happen for the next 10 years.
I don't like repeating myself, but like I said yesterday, restrictions could mean any number of things. From a severe lockdown for everyone to small restrictions only for the unvaccinated. And everything in between.

I'm perfectly fine with restrictions for the unvaccinated for the time being/next few months. Not indefinitely, obviously.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
89,032
The two things aren't linked. Otherwise what you are essentially saying is that the vaccinations do nothing, which I think you have been alluding to for some time.
They do help. But unlike others I don't think it's the ultimate salvation. We have vaccines for quite some time but there's always some kind of excuse why things are going bad. In the end it's going to be "this happened because we didn't have 90-100% vaccinated".
 

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