Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (59 Viewers)
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A new phenomenon here in Europe; either you’re vaccinated or recovered from the virus. Doing a test isn’t enough anymore to enter basically everything besides the supermarket or some other stores.
Restaurants, gyms, stores where you’re able to buy clothes and stuff etc etc etc will close for unvaccinated people. In some parts of Germany this applies already and in Austria there’s some lockdown for unvaccinated people.
In Italy for example, it’s impossible to go to work without a vaccine. Otherwise you have to stay home without a payment
Restaurants, gyms, stores where you’re able to buy clothes and stuff etc etc etc will close for unvaccinated people. In some parts of Germany this applies already and in Austria there’s some lockdown for unvaccinated people.
In Italy for example, it’s impossible to go to work without a vaccine. Otherwise you have to stay home without a payment
Please just go to your doctor that you trust and ask him if you should vaccinate or not. The ethical perspective should be also considered of the effects that minortiy of unvaccinated people are doing to the society when they don't vaccinate.
The doctor's in Austria are now demanding obligatory vaccines for everybody.
The doctor's in Austria are now demanding obligatory vaccines for everybody.
That doesn't tie up with this: https://www.rivm.nl/en/news/unvacci...rly-20-years-younger-than-vaccinated-patients
Even with the figures you provided you are still far more likely to be hospitalised if unvaccinated. 45% total against only 15% of the population is a very big difference.
Even with the figures you provided you are still far more likely to be hospitalised if unvaccinated. 45% total against only 15% of the population is a very big difference.
To what part are you referring in the link? The posts I wrote are really based on how the situation developed here and how many things were so avoidable. I could go in depth about the sources that contain the RIVM or video’s of recent debates but it would become a very technical post with Dutch sources.
austria going in lockdown for 10 days. vaccines will be obligatory from february. details here: https://www.krone.at/2559576
i'm pro vaccines but this is getting out of hand.
i'm pro vaccines but this is getting out of hand.
Feeling like Bruce Willis in 12 monkeys going out on the surface 
Good oneWe are so far apart on this it's pointless to even argue but generally if COVID was a disease worth vaxxing from you'd get 99% vaccination rate the first month. People tend to react accordingly to these things since they always choose the best for themselves. Even now the big majority are convenience vaxxers. Authorities shifting the blame to the unvaxxed because they have no plan after dismantling the (health) infrastructure for decades.
Yeah, that was what I was referring to. I wouldn't necessarily agree with people only doing what's best for themselves, but that was my point when talking about "the ethics" of the situation.
If your personal stance is that you take the vaccine to protect both yourself & "others" or society as a whole, then refusing to do so would seem unethical. You know, helping others being the ethical thing to do, refusing to help others being the exact opposite.
It all depends on how you look at the situation. That's really all there is to it.
If your personal stance is that you take the vaccine to protect both yourself & "others" or society as a whole, then refusing to do so would seem unethical. You know, helping others being the ethical thing to do, refusing to help others being the exact opposite.
It all depends on how you look at the situation. That's really all there is to it.
