Antonio Conte (209 Viewers)
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This is actually the first mercato where we haven't bought multiple starters.
Last year was Tevez/Llorente.
Year before was Asamoah/Pogba.
Year before was Vidal/Lichtsteiner/Pirlo.
I'll wager when we look back at this mercato our starters will be Morata and Coman, and next year it will be Berardi and someone else. But like always, it's not exactly evident at the time.
The thing with bench players and youngsters is that A. They can actually become starters and B. You're guaranteed to make the CL every year:
Because missing the CL is so much more punitive than making the CL semis is rewarding. If you just make it out of the groups every year, you will have a chance to grow as a team. If you make the semis, you can grow a bit faster. If you miss the CL, you're fucked completely. That's why management will never go into a season with a thin bench.
Primavera players on the bench is how you risk missing the CL. Barzagli and Vidal are already hurt. This is why we're going for Luisao. Luisao is literally the safest option for the money that you can find. You make the CL again and keep turning your wheels. If you leave it up to Caceres or Rugani and they're disasters, then we could miss the CL and then Vidal and Pogba get sold.
Another thing with buying high-priced starters and putting current starters on the bench is the wage structure of the team. We can't have 3M-4M wages on the bench at every position like some of these teams do.
You have to buy the likes of Pereyra who can be on the bench or starting for half the season but he's on 1-2M wages for 10 years. Lichtsteiner has been on 2M wages until now, he's 31.
Last year was Tevez/Llorente.
Year before was Asamoah/Pogba.
Year before was Vidal/Lichtsteiner/Pirlo.
I'll wager when we look back at this mercato our starters will be Morata and Coman, and next year it will be Berardi and someone else. But like always, it's not exactly evident at the time.
The thing with bench players and youngsters is that A. They can actually become starters and B. You're guaranteed to make the CL every year:
Because missing the CL is so much more punitive than making the CL semis is rewarding. If you just make it out of the groups every year, you will have a chance to grow as a team. If you make the semis, you can grow a bit faster. If you miss the CL, you're fucked completely. That's why management will never go into a season with a thin bench.
Primavera players on the bench is how you risk missing the CL. Barzagli and Vidal are already hurt. This is why we're going for Luisao. Luisao is literally the safest option for the money that you can find. You make the CL again and keep turning your wheels. If you leave it up to Caceres or Rugani and they're disasters, then we could miss the CL and then Vidal and Pogba get sold.
Another thing with buying high-priced starters and putting current starters on the bench is the wage structure of the team. We can't have 3M-4M wages on the bench at every position like some of these teams do.
You have to buy the likes of Pereyra who can be on the bench or starting for half the season but he's on 1-2M wages for 10 years. Lichtsteiner has been on 2M wages until now, he's 31.
They bought two last season, two the year before, and 5 in the 2 years before that.
If they buy a starter again this season, who is getting benched?
Asamoah? Does he DESERVE to be benched?
Vidal, Pogba, or Pirlo? Can't see any reason why they would be benched.
Tevez or Llorente?
The only logical place would be in the defense, and most of the people here are up in arms over the prospect of Juve spending money to buy a starter on the defense?
Where would this starter that you want them to buy, play?
The only way it would work is you would have to change formations for that starter to get into the first XI, and a change in formation could necessitate the need to get yet another starter, such as if Juve were to get Sanchez, they would need another winger to play the 4-3-3 if you want that to be truly effective, for Tevez would only be a temporary thing and would be a misuse of his talents.
If they buy a starter again this season, who is getting benched?
Asamoah? Does he DESERVE to be benched?
Vidal, Pogba, or Pirlo? Can't see any reason why they would be benched.
Tevez or Llorente?
The only logical place would be in the defense, and most of the people here are up in arms over the prospect of Juve spending money to buy a starter on the defense?
Where would this starter that you want them to buy, play?
The only way it would work is you would have to change formations for that starter to get into the first XI, and a change in formation could necessitate the need to get yet another starter, such as if Juve were to get Sanchez, they would need another winger to play the 4-3-3 if you want that to be truly effective, for Tevez would only be a temporary thing and would be a misuse of his talents.
but the understanding here amongst everyone is that our team is by far the best in serie A and that scudetto will be a walk in the park so how we damage our chances of making cl if we pass on morata and pereyra and get a 35-40 mil player? risk will have to be taken and the longer we wait the more risk we actually have to take to close the gap.
I know exactly what he means.
But where do you play this world class starter. Who gets benched?
Let's keep in mind here that the two players form the starting XI who did NOT make the WC this year happen to be the strikers on this club, and they combined for 40 goals between the two of them this year, in their first year at the club. And it could be argued that they both should have been there.
This team all of a sudden did not become a bunch of mid table quality scrubs because the coach left.
But where do you play this world class starter. Who gets benched?
Let's keep in mind here that the two players form the starting XI who did NOT make the WC this year happen to be the strikers on this club, and they combined for 40 goals between the two of them this year, in their first year at the club. And it could be argued that they both should have been there.
This team all of a sudden did not become a bunch of mid table quality scrubs because the coach left.
Pogba doesn't count as "buying a starter". And neither does Asamoah for that matter. Sure both turned out to be wonderful, but neither was intended to have huge impact on the team.
I would buy a player than can play behind the strikers. In Allegri's system, that seems to be a very important position. Plus it would give Juve another dimension in attack and tactical flexibility in both the 3-5-2 and 4-3-1-2. Seems better than the "we can't affort 50 wingers argument".
I would buy a player than can play behind the strikers. In Allegri's system, that seems to be a very important position. Plus it would give Juve another dimension in attack and tactical flexibility in both the 3-5-2 and 4-3-1-2. Seems better than the "we can't affort 50 wingers argument".
But doens't that give sound testimony to the overall quality of finding talent at a reasonable price rather than just squabbling our transfer funds on 1 player?
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So then what "untouchable" players should the club have gotten? Of course, considering all things such as transfer fee, wages, and opposition club willing to sell.
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So then what "untouchable" players should the club have gotten? Of course, considering all things such as transfer fee, wages, and opposition club willing to sell.
At what position?
What part of the starting XI needs that much of an upgrade that you would have to spend millions on, that would be substantially better than what they currently have now?
Again, the only position I can see that is in the defense, where thy need to get younger anyway, and get rid of Bonnucci in the process.
But again, this brings up the point I made earlier that people on this fourm would go ballistic if they spent a huge amount on that backline.
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I was going to say this to you via PM, but you've become quite a contentious prick ever since you've become a Mod.
I said it.
Ban me, do whatever you want, but you have become nothing but absolutely condescending ever since.
I really don't fucking care.
What part of the starting XI needs that much of an upgrade that you would have to spend millions on, that would be substantially better than what they currently have now?
Again, the only position I can see that is in the defense, where thy need to get younger anyway, and get rid of Bonnucci in the process.
But again, this brings up the point I made earlier that people on this fourm would go ballistic if they spent a huge amount on that backline.
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I said it.
Ban me, do whatever you want, but you have become nothing but absolutely condescending ever since.
I really don't fucking care.