Antonio Conte (151 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
70,797
He hasn't failed yet
if he is the reason our most, by far, precious asset left, then i dont see a bigger failure than that. Itd be like the new barcelona prez driving messi to leave. whos agnelli anyway? his shot to fame is hiring conte, basically conte made agnelli, there are millions of agnellis out there, how many contes for this juve?
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,880
if he is the reason our most, by far, precious asset left, then i dont see a bigger failure than that. Itd be like the new barcelona prez driving messi to leave. whos agnelli anyway? his shot to fame is hiring conte, basically conte made agnelli, there are millions of agnellis out there, how many contes for this juve?
this

and double failure if he hires Allegri
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,125
if he is the reason our most, by far, precious asset left, then i dont see a bigger failure than that. Itd be like the new barcelona prez driving messi to leave. whos agnelli anyway? his shot to fame is hiring conte, basically conte made agnelli, there are millions of agnellis out there, how many contes for this juve?
Why do you not see the fault on conte's side?
How do you abandon a team that you supposedly love?
All before your contract is expired?
You spoke of "grinta", yet when the time came you showed none?
Conte did a selfish thing, for Conte and Conte only, not Juventus, not his players
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,526
I can't blame Conte. It's the same situation that forced LeBron to leave Cleveland the first time. He obviously loves the city but has different expectations the board is not prepared to meet. Nothing wrong with that.

I'll miss him but we'll move on. Whether Juve will be a top team anytime soon is up in the air and I personally doubt it.
 

Gerd

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Dec 25, 2011
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if he is the reason our most, by far, precious asset left, then i dont see a bigger failure than that. Itd be like the new barcelona prez driving messi to leave. whos agnelli anyway? his shot to fame is hiring conte, basically conte made agnelli, there are millions of agnellis out there, how many contes for this juve?
If juve can't please conte is not Agnelli's fault , if someone came and asked me for the moon i would obviously not be able to please them , because i simply can't do it . Conte knows this very well , he knows our limits and he doesn't like them , that's why he left .

Also don't forget that it also was agnelli who brought conte to juve , at a time which most people didn't have faith in him (me included) and he hadn't shown much to actually deserve a chance in a big team , it always was agnelli who pushed for conte .
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,797
Why do you not see the fault on conte's side?
How do you abandon a team that you supposedly love?
All before your contract is expired?
You spoke of "grinta", yet when the time came you showed none?
Conte did a selfish thing, for Conte and Conte only, not Juventus, not his players

why do you assume conte just up and left? what of his past behavior suggests hes the kind to do such a thing?

on the other hand of the spectrum we have agnelli, whos agnelli? what has he done for this juve?

like i said i trust the one i perceive as a real fan like you or me over some suit.

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If juve can't please conte is not Agnelli's fault , if someone came and asked me for the moon i would obviously not be able to please them , because i simply can't do it . Conte knows this very well , he knows our limits and he doesn't like them , that's why he left .

Also don't forget that it also was agnelli who brought conte to juve , at a time which most people didn't have faith in him (me included) and he hadn't shown much to actually deserve a chance in a big team , it always was agnelli who pushed for conte .

how do you know?
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,125
If juve can't please conte is not Agnelli's fault , if someone came and asked me for the moon i would obviously not be able to please them , because i simply can't do it . Conte knows this very well , he knows our limits and he doesn't like them , that's why he left .

Also don't forget that it also was agnelli who brought conte to juve , at a time which most people didn't have faith in him (me included) and he hadn't shown much to actually deserve a chance in a big team , it always was agnelli who pushed for conte .
:tup: so how does Conte repay all this by leaving with a year left
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,526
Why do you not see the fault on conte's side?
How do you abandon a team that you supposedly love?
All before your contract is expired?
You spoke of "grinta", yet when the time came you showed none?
Conte did a selfish thing, for Conte and Conte only, not Juventus, not his players
He doesn't have to be kept like a hostage. Disagreement with your higher ups and different expectations mean that you're not getting pleasure from doing your job and that plays a big role in sports
 

Gerd

Senior Member
Dec 25, 2011
5,955
I can't blame Conte. It's the same situation that forced LeBron to leave Cleveland the first time. He obviously loves the city but has different expectations the board is not prepared to meet. Nothing wrong with that.

I'll miss him but we'll move on. Whether Juve will be a top team anytime soon is up in the air and I personally doubt it.
Exactly what i think , i don't mind him leaving , he has higher ambitions , wants to win CL , it's his right to try and go to a better team . The thing that i hate is the way he left us .
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,880
Why do you not see the fault on conte's side?
How do you abandon a team that you supposedly love?
All before your contract is expired?
You spoke of "grinta", yet when the time came you showed none?
Conte did a selfish thing, for Conte and Conte only, not Juventus, not his players
You can put the blame on whoever you want, but, no director should let its most important piece of the team leave. It does not make any sense.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,125
why do you assume conte just up and left? what of his past behavior suggests hes the kind to do such a thing?

on the other hand of the spectrum we have agnelli, whos agnelli? what has he done for this juve?

like i said i trust the one i perceive as a real fan like you or me over some suit.

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how do you know?
Your trust makes no sense. Conte wanted to leave at the end of the season, or did you forget, the meetings kept him here and now he leaves for the NT. He wasn't forced out, like Gerd said he was brought here by agnelli against manys advice, why after looking so smart in hiring him would agnelli let him go now, after history?
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,526
Exactly what i think , i don't mind him leaving , he has higher ambitions , wants to win CL , it's his right to try and go to a better team . The thing that i hate is the way he left us .
Why do you think he left like this? I personally think it might have to do with false promises from the club aka Marotta and Agnelli. Pretty sure we're close to selling Vidal and Pogba will follow next year. This releagtes Juve to a stepping stone and Conte doesn't want to work with that.
 

Gerd

Senior Member
Dec 25, 2011
5,955
why do you assume conte just up and left? what of his past behavior suggests hes the kind to do such a thing?

on the other hand of the spectrum we have agnelli, whos agnelli? what has he done for this juve?

like i said i trust the one i perceive as a real fan like you or me over some suit.

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how do you know?
Juventus winning is not just conte's doing . As i said earlier it was agnelli that brought conte to juve and under his managment we have won 3 trophies . Winning is a collective thing , you win and lose together , there arer 11 players who set foot on the pitch every week . Without the pirlo's the vidal's and barzagli's we wouldn't have won . The ability of Conte was that he took a team with quality and made them express themselves to their fullest .

As for the second part , there is no other reason he may want to leave . If he thought he could win here and have a chance at CL there is no reason why he had to leave . We are talking about the same guy who said live in conference that he was much more of a juve fan than anyone
 

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