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revianblue

New Member
May 27, 2008
24
Hey guys, this is my first post ever on this forum. I am a big Juventus fan from Turkey.

At the end of the 2010-2011 season, Turkey also had a big cheating scandal which both president, vice-president and general director of Fenerbahçe had been involved. As compared with allegations against Bonucci, Pepe and Conte, it was far more serious and proven situation.
Well, actually there was even more evidence then Calciopoli, but during course of the trial, politics involved. Government in Turkey is very strong, and their harshness against anyone who oppose themselves, is well known. Despite the fact that there are evidence of cheating, most of the people saw the fact that there is a gestapo-wise, political scheme ongoing against Fenerbahçe. A simple cheating allegation turned up into a political fight, where Fenerbahçe (somehow) turned into a fortress against conservative-right wing alligned government.

Prosecutor requested 39 year imprisonment for President of Fenerbahçe. (It is higher sentence then murdering someone)

After that point, Fenerbahçe fans turned mad. They were simply camping outside the courts, waiting for the release of their president, while almost every team in the Turkey put a pressure against TFF (Turkey Football Federation) for not relegating Fenerbahçe into the second league, in fear of decreased TV incomes and in fear of tyranny. But TFF President (favored by Government) somehow resisted and banned Fenerbahçe from Champions League. Relegation is about to come.

Guess what happened?

Teams revolted against president of TFF and voted for getting Beşiktaş President into place, a person who promised that there will be no regulation, no penalty, no imprisonment. New president changed the rules, made contacts with Jurisdiction and even with the Government's itself, asked plea from UEFA, changed Turkey Super Lig's rules with a play-off system (which will keep the TV incomes high) and somehow, managed to save Fenerbahçe last year. Fenerbahçe President released from prison after 1 year.

But why?

Why do they have to save Fenerbahçe from relegation, and their president from prison, while there are some strong proofs about cheating? Money, prestige, TV incomes, future of football in turkey etc...These were the minor facts. Main reason is;

Social explosion!

Fenerbahçe fans were so angry and were about to riot, and their numbers were high enough to threaten government's policies, let alone TFF's. They fight with cops on the streets, they protested during the matches and they defended themselves in almost every scene you can think of; internet, tv, real-life, stadiums, streets... Super Lig Teams income from TV's reduced by %25-%30, while, surprisingly, Fenerbahçe's store sales increased by %40 (because almost every fan of Fenerbahçe bought a new kit to support)

The reaction from the Fenerbahçe fans didn't directed against TFF, it was rather directed against government agenda, with the support of other teams (because other teams were well aware that tides could turn against them too) they succeeded. Government realized they are loosing big number of votes, and creating their own rivals for nothing, so they released Fenerbahçe President.

TL;DR: It is up to fans to save Antonio Conte, Leonardo Bonucci and Simone Pepe. Curva Sud should not write a declaration, they must riot in the streets, in front of the courts. Only thing that Juventus Board can do is, stop sending players to national team. Other then that, it is up to Juventus fan, in the end, it is war!
 

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dann10

Ho visto Del Piero
Aug 26, 2008
4,409
I think im going to miss pepe more than bonucci. Not ability wise, but it just seems like he has so many friends on the team and is a very fun person to have in the squad. His scudetto celebration videos were hilarious. Although losing bonbon will obviously hurt us more.
 

napoleonic

Senior Member
Sep 7, 2010
4,129
Hey guys, this is my first post ever on this forum. I am a big Juventus fan from Turkey.

At the end of the 2010-2011 season, Turkey also had a big cheating scandal which both president, vice-president and general director of Fenerbahçe had been involved. As compared with allegations against Bonucci, Pepe and Conte, it was far more serious and proven situation.
Well, actually there was even more evidence then Calciopoli, but during course of the trial, politics involved. Government in Turkey is very strong, and their harshness against anyone who oppose themselves, is well known. Despite the fact that there are evidence of cheating, most of the people saw the fact that there is a gestapo-wise, political scheme ongoing against Fenerbahçe. A simple cheating allegation turned up into a political fight, where Fenerbahçe (somehow) turned into a fortress against conservative-right wing alligned government.

Prosecutor requested 39 year imprisonment for President of Fenerbahçe. (It is higher sentence then murdering someone)

After that point, Fenerbahçe fans turned mad. They were simply camping outside the courts, waiting for the release of their president, while almost every team in the Turkey put a pressure against TFF (Turkey Football Federation) for not relegating Fenerbahçe into the second league, in fear of decreased TV incomes and in fear of tyranny. But TFF President (favored by Government) somehow resisted and banned Fenerbahçe from Champions League. Relegation is about to come.

Guess what happened?

Teams revolted against president of TFF and voted for getting Beşiktaş President into place, a person who promised that there will be no regulation, no penalty, no imprisonment. New president changed the rules, made contacts with Jurisdiction and even with the Government's itself, asked plea from UEFA, changed Turkey Super Lig's rules with a play-off system (which will keep the TV incomes high) and somehow, managed to save Fenerbahçe last year. Fenerbahçe President released from prison after 1 year.

But why?

Why do they have to save Fenerbahçe from relegation, and their president from prison, while there are some strong proofs about cheating? Money, prestige, TV incomes, future of football in turkey etc...These were the minor facts. Main reason is;

Social explosion!

Fenerbahçe fans were so angry and were about to riot, and their numbers were high enough to threaten government's policies, let alone TFF's. They fight with cops on the streets, they protested during the matches and they defended themselves in almost every scene you can think of; internet, tv, real-life, stadiums, streets... Super Lig Teams income from TV's reduced by %25-%30, while, surprisingly, Fenerbahçe's store sales increased by %40 (because almost every fan of Fenerbahçe bought a new kit to support)

The reaction from the Fenerbahçe fans didn't directed against TFF, it was rather directed against government agenda, with the support of other teams (because other teams were well aware that tides could turn against them too) they succeeded. Government realized they are loosing big number of votes, and creating their own rivals for nothing, so they released Fenerbahçe President.

TL;DR: It is up to fans to save Antonio Conte, Leonardo Bonucci and Simone Pepe. Curva Sud should not write a declaration, they must riot in the streets, in front of the courts. Only thing that Juventus Board can do is, stop sending players to national team. Other then that, it is up to Juventus fan, in the end, it is war!
SHOULD'VE DONE THAT IN 2006!!!
 

Gerd

Senior Member
Dec 25, 2011
5,955
Alvaro Moretti su RadioRadio

"altra cosa incredibile: Palazzi e la commissione disciplinare sono in prorogatio, cioè il loro incarico è scaduto il 30 giugno. Hanno chiesto tutti la riconferma, per ora sono in deroga e sarà la figc dopo i processi sportivi a decidere l'eventuale riconferma"


Pratically Palazzi's and the disiplinary commision time on the job has expired at 30 june . Everybody has asked the reconfirmation , but for now they are in derogation and it is figc who after the sportive process will decide to reconfirm them or not

Let the conspiracy theories begin :D
 

Dadi-SK

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2011
3,688
Alvaro Moretti su RadioRadio

"altra cosa incredibile: Palazzi e la commissione disciplinare sono in prorogatio, cioè il loro incarico è scaduto il 30 giugno. Hanno chiesto tutti la riconferma, per ora sono in deroga e sarà la figc dopo i processi sportivi a decidere l'eventuale riconferma"


Pratically Palazzi's and the disiplinary commision time on the job has expired at 30 june . Everybody has asked the reconfirmation , but for now they are in derogation and it is figc who after the sportive process will decide to reconfirm them or not

Let the conspiracy theories begin :D
:lol: what a circus
 

revianblue

New Member
May 27, 2008
24
people on VC forum, voting for Massimo Carrera is even more disgusting.

it is a plain declaration of acceptance.

i'm trying to guess what will happen if same things happened to barcelona? a civil war perhaps?
and don't start with corruption, (because it is a two sided stick, you can solve this problem with same corruption methods) but start with overall lack of faith of juventus fans...
 

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