Anti-Thuram (3 Viewers)

[ZhiXin]

I wouldn't hate any1 if they were to leave or cry my hearts out when they leave. If it is their decision, I can respect that. After all they have to leave under forced circumstances. Shouldn't we look towards the future instead of directing hate to a certain player?

 

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[flieeeekke]

this whole anti someone situation is ridiculous. these are professional footballers who most of the time will go for better pay and playingconditions. there are your del pieros and tottis, but there are much more thurams, zambrottas and cannavaros. get over it. sure, im really pissed about everyone walking away, but only because the team is weakening, but what right do i or any of you have to be mad at the players.

 

[giovanotti]

To be honest he did us a favour by his decisison to leave...his sallary was 5 mil Euros/year and , one of the largest in Juve.

So no more Thuram and we have +5mil Euros per year.

Thuram wishing you the best in Barca,and help your team to kick capello's and his mercenaries arses.

 

[Geof]

this whole anti someone situation is ridiculous. these are professional footballers who most of the time will go for better pay and playingconditions. there are your del pieros and tottis, but there are much more thurams, zambrottas and cannavaros. get over it. sure, im really pissed about everyone walking away, but only because the team is weakening, but what right do i or any of you have to be mad at the players.

exactly!

It hurts me to see all these great players leaving. But we can't blame them for leaving. If someone is to blame here, it's probably Luciano Moggi

 

[denco]

Why are there no anti Zambrotta or anti Cannavaro threads on here? After all they are no more with Juventus as we are led to believe? All this rubbish about Thuram being a mercenary and all of that. I demand proof of his mercenarying ways . I want to know what he was earning per week at Juventus compared to the highest earners and what demands he made to make people start calling him a mercenary

 

[SiccSense]

Why are there no anti Zambrotta or anti Cannavaro threads on here? After all they are no more with Juventus as we are led to believe? All this rubbish about Thuram being a mercenary and all of that. I demand proof of his mercenarying ways . I want to know what he was earning per week at Juventus compared to the highest earners and what demands he made to make people start calling him a mercenary

Top Serie A annual salaries

1. Totti - 5.8MM Euros
2. Buffon - 5MM
- Del Piero
- Nedved
- Thuram
- Trezeguet
- Vieira
8. Shevchenko - 4.7MM
9. Rui Costa - 4.6MM
10. F. Cannavaro - 4.5MM
- Emerson
- Adriano
- Nesta
- Pippo Inzaghi
15. Kaka - 4MM
- Maldini
- Roberto Mancini
- Samuel
- Veron
20. Montella - 3.8MM
- Recoba
22. Fabio Capello - 3.5MM
- Figo
- Pirlo
- Seedorf
- Stam
- Toldo
- Vieri
29. Cassano - 3.2MM
- Gilardino
31. Kaladze - 3MM
32. Carlo Ancelotti - 2.8MM
- Dida
- Ibrahimovic

 

[Martin]

Top Serie A annual salaries

1. Totti - 5.8MM Euros
2. Buffon - 5MM
- Del Piero
- Nedved
- Thuram
- Trezeguet
- Vieira
8. Shevchenko - 4.7MM
9. Rui Costa - 4.6MM
10. F. Cannavaro - 4.5MM
- Emerson
- Adriano
- Nesta
- Pippo Inzaghi
15. Kaka - 4MM
- Maldini
- Roberto Mancini
- Samuel
- Veron
20. Montella - 3.8MM
- Recoba
22. Fabio Capello - 3.5MM
- Figo
- Pirlo
- Seedorf
- Stam
- Toldo
- Vieri
29. Cassano - 3.2MM
- Gilardino
31. Kaladze - 3MM
32. Carlo Ancelotti - 2.8MM
- Dida
- Ibrahimovic

Thuram 5
Cannavaro 4.5
Emerson 4.5
Capello 3.5

That's €17.5m/year saved. If we sell

Trezeguet 5
Vieira 5
Ibrahimovic 2.8

we save another €12.8m/year.

 

[denco]

If 6 people at Juve are on 5m like you have put on here, why is Thuram singled out as a mercenary? I am sure Barcelona were asked to pay him 8m euros, after all they are European champs and he is a mercenary

 

[AlexTheGreat]

Thuram 5
Cannavaro 4.5
Emerson 4.5
Capello 3.5

That's €17.5m/year saved. If we sell

Trezeguet 5
Vieira 5
Ibrahimovic 2.8

we save another €12.8m/year.

I believe the wages showed here are after the tax. which means Juve would save more than that €17.5mx2 maybe

 

[ZhiXin]

exactly!

It hurts me to see all these great players leaving. But we can't blame them for leaving. If someone is to blame here, it's probably Luciano Moggi

I would probably let this issue go aside as Juventus has more problems to tackle. It is human nature to find a scapegoat to blame. TBH I wouldn't hate Moggi for what he has done even though he is clearly in the wrong. By now we should be prepared looking towards the future already instead of pointing fingers

 

[Bjerknes]

im as much anti thuram as im anti zambrotta. the latter said that he wont play for juve in b as soon as there were talks about us getting relegated. how is he better than thuram, how was he more worthy of the armband?

Simple... Zambrotta has been a player at Juventus for much longer and was "the next in line."

And I think you're confusing media reports on Zambrotta; they were two stories of different nature.

 

[xchloe007x]

exactly its all about money, i know hockey is not as glamorous as football, but i play professional field hockey for my home city, and we recently got relegated, but i like many of us have decided to stay on and get ourselves back on track, we too also lost our manager at the start of last season, joining a rival club, stealing our best players, and leaving the club captain to lead us, who is like our del piero in my eyes, the fact that if u love the club that badly, u wud make the sacrifice like i have for my hockey club, or like buffon and the other loyals have made.

The only reason Buffon is staying is because the Milan deal is a no go anymore so he and his agent knew there was a low chance of him leaving to a preferable team, atleast in Italy...

 

[Larry]

I value greatly every player who has represented Juventus on the field in moments of glory.
Thuram

 

[Juve_25]

If 6 people at Juve are on 5m like you have put on here, why is Thuram singled out as a mercenary? I am sure Barcelona were asked to pay him 8m euros, after all they are European champs and he is a mercenary

Barcelona is a very mean club. Not even ronaldinho wins 8m euros. And I don't think they offered him more than what they payed for him to the Club (4m euros)

 

[Vinman]

Why are there no anti Zambrotta or anti Cannavaro threads on here? After all they are no more with Juventus as we are led to believe? All this rubbish about Thuram being a mercenary and all of that. I demand proof of his mercenarying ways . I want to know what he was earning per week at Juventus compared to the highest earners and what demands he made to make people start calling him a mercenary

I'm all for starting them !!

 

[sateeh]

Simple... Zambrotta has been a player at Juventus for much longer and was "the next in line."

And I think you're confusing media reports on Zambrotta; they were two stories of different nature.

captaincy is not abt being longer in the club, its abt leadership, and being level headed when ppl around u aren't being that, as well as being respected by ur peers.

Anyway u cant label thuram as a mercenery, simply becuz he was the vice captain and left.

 

[xchloe007x]

captaincy is not abt being longer in the club, its abt leadership, and being level headed when ppl around u aren't being that, as well as being respected by ur peers.

Anyway u cant label thuram as a mercenery, simply becuz he was the vice captain and left.

true but respect doesn't come until you've been at the club for a decent amount of time, so it does indeed play a role in picking a captain, look at Pessotto Del Piero and Nedved all have been at the club a great deal of time, your not gonna have say Carles Puyol join Juventus and just because he has great leadership and respect among players doesnt mean he's immediatly going to be a sub-captain of the squad... time does play a factor...

 

[sateeh]

true but respect doesn't come until you've been at the club for a decent amount of time, so it does indeed play a role in picking a captain, look at Pessotto Del Piero and Nedved all have been at the club a great deal of time, your not gonna have say Carles Puyol join Juventus and just because he has great leadership and respect among players doesnt mean he's immediatly going to be a sub-captain of the squad... time does play a factor...

wat if paolo maldini joined the club , wouldnt he earn respect insistantly ? am not comparing thuram to maldini, but although time at the club helps but its not the entire case here.

neddy spent the same time in the club as thuram did.

am not saying that a new comer with a big personality would become vice captain, but am saying personality goes a longer way than time at the club. Thuram was not a new comer by the way.

just look at captains like alex when ferrara was playing, ferdinand(for a little while) while the likes of giggs and scholes.

 

[Stephan]

imo thuram never really had all those characteristics to be captain, something seemed to miss, he wasnt emotionally as active as some other players, like take a look at terry in chelsea, always encouraging his teammates. thuram seemed a bit demure sometimes. yes obviously i remember him giving notes to his teammates in the setpieces defending, but still he didnt seem that active.

 

[Bjerknes]

Thuram never had the real characteristics of a captain. He never showed any real emotion on the pitch, rarely celebrated with the team as a whole, and was never even close to being the most vocal player on the pitch.

Some posters here are saying that Thuram leads by example...well you know what, so does Zambrotta. He always gave 100% and no matter what anybody says of course it matters how long a player is at a club before giving him the captaincy. It's a matter of how much he has given to Juventus, and Gianluca has obviously given more to the team because afterall he was a player for years longer.

But if you do not want to give the captaincy to Zambrotta, why not give it to Nedved, a player who always gives 100% and is as influential as anybody? That choice would make much more sense than handing it to Thuram. Hell, even Buffon showed more emotion than Thuram over the years and was of course more vocal. It just boggles my mind why Capello would appoint Thuram as captain, but as Paul has said before it was just Crap's motion to insert his authority over the team and show everybody who's boss.