@Jasp:
One starter more or less would achieve nothing more or less in this season,
but the collective addition of stars can achieve more in the future.
We are supposedly building up a competitive team for the future, we should start building up this team, by adding one or two stars per season, the more time we waste, the more we are moving away from that goal!
Make no mistake, performance =/= managerial planning.
The on field performance is affected by the managerial planning, but it is only partially affected by that. Form, determination, injuries, tactical choices, ref intervention and countless other parameters affect the performance in the end.
However the accumulated managerial choices have a great effect through time, because they actually form the main parameters of our potential, as they act as guidelines.
For ex, if we keep adding some very limited players on some positions(defense) and some very expensive players on some others (offense).
-We are bound to face some balance issues that need to be countered and limit our tactical choices (like sacrificing the amount of offensive wise players from our midfield, to support our weak defense)
-Face internal issues due to competition (the Treze incident is only the tip of the iceberg, imagine what would have been if he was available during this season, or the Cassano-DP inferno next season)
-Be forced to tolerate use inferior material (Grygera, Molinaro, Marchionni) due to lack of first rate choices in some places, whilst sacrificing first rate choices on the bench far more superior to them (Treze+Iaquinta+Giovinco >>> Grygera, Moli+Marchionni quality wise)
-Make the construction of a strong team, competitive at every line nearly impossible. Because we wont be able to support wages for very expensive forwards, very expensive sub forwards, expensive midfielders, expensive midfielders and sub midfielders, cheap defenders AND expensive quality defenders. Even the old Juve couldnt afford that, let alone this one, who is far from optimal and doesnt have any prime income due the inability to compete with the best and win titles, because of each weakness int the starting eleven...
1) we could very well have enough depth, adding the same amount of youngsters but with extended role (ex more chances for Giovinco and DC) or even increase amount the amount youngsters in our team. But at this year, not even this was necessary, we could should just bring the same amount of players we brought, but for different positions, preferable the positions we suffer from starters issues!
2)Since we were able to acquire someone as good and expensive as Amauri, that speak by itself about the amount of options we had. The Italian market and the world market provide an unlimited source of players to choose from. The point is that we were never really interested on them because we had other priorities.
At this year, we have shown that we the potential to compete at a high level (maybe not the highest but much better than average), the Juventus jersey still holds some prestige with it, the presence of our remaining champions to give an added motive and we also had the CL temptation with our side. We had no excuses this time, our choices were ours...
A this year we have the same if not even better choices and almost no more excuses left, so i expect us to start showing some promise...
And i dont mean performance wise, i dont mind if we win nothing for the 2009-2010 season either, but i expect us to come a step closer to competitive squad, almost full with competitive players at every line and with some more addition in the next couple of year, a squad that would have some realistic chances to claim a title!
If we were adding two starters this year and two at this summer, we could have already been there, but its better late than never...
Hopefully we will fix our wings and fullbacks in two seasons from now!!
Dont get me wrong.
I am not expecting any miracles here and i am not expecting two 30 mil players/season either. What i am expecting to see is free forwards at Mellberg's quality as depth for our front line and some expensive starters at Amauri's quality at defense. With the same amount of youngsters as added depth. No need to sacrifice our depth number, or spending more money, these are not valid excuses any more, they were last year, but not anymore.
I admit that i would sacrifice the amount of subbers like Almiron, Tiago, Stendardo and Iaquinta for the half amount of better players and also for an extended role to our youngsters
And i am convinced that it wouldnt have any effect on our performances. Since their role was marginal anyway. But these are old news.
This year we brought 4 youngsters one free player to be used as sub and 2 expensive subbers.
I would prefer 4 youngsters, one free player to be used as sub and 2 expensive starters (Amauri eventually turned out to be a starter, but only by converting a quality starter into a sub, aka Treze, so the effect is the same in the long run, when Treze returns)
that would turn two of our current 3 low quality starters (like Marchionni, Moli and Grygera) into subs.
There is no less loss of players here, just an increase of quality starters and a decrease of quality subbers.
And Jack:, i cant know that,(if they will eventually decide to invest on our defense, rather than keep wasting our limited resources to stacked up forward line) but their behavior and choices of the past indicate that.
I hope that they will change that, i really do,
if they do, i promise to praise this board's decision and its effects during their season!
One starter more or less would achieve nothing more or less in this season,
but the collective addition of stars can achieve more in the future.
We are supposedly building up a competitive team for the future, we should start building up this team, by adding one or two stars per season, the more time we waste, the more we are moving away from that goal!
Make no mistake, performance =/= managerial planning.
The on field performance is affected by the managerial planning, but it is only partially affected by that. Form, determination, injuries, tactical choices, ref intervention and countless other parameters affect the performance in the end.
However the accumulated managerial choices have a great effect through time, because they actually form the main parameters of our potential, as they act as guidelines.
For ex, if we keep adding some very limited players on some positions(defense) and some very expensive players on some others (offense).
-We are bound to face some balance issues that need to be countered and limit our tactical choices (like sacrificing the amount of offensive wise players from our midfield, to support our weak defense)
-Face internal issues due to competition (the Treze incident is only the tip of the iceberg, imagine what would have been if he was available during this season, or the Cassano-DP inferno next season)
-Be forced to tolerate use inferior material (Grygera, Molinaro, Marchionni) due to lack of first rate choices in some places, whilst sacrificing first rate choices on the bench far more superior to them (Treze+Iaquinta+Giovinco >>> Grygera, Moli+Marchionni quality wise)
-Make the construction of a strong team, competitive at every line nearly impossible. Because we wont be able to support wages for very expensive forwards, very expensive sub forwards, expensive midfielders, expensive midfielders and sub midfielders, cheap defenders AND expensive quality defenders. Even the old Juve couldnt afford that, let alone this one, who is far from optimal and doesnt have any prime income due the inability to compete with the best and win titles, because of each weakness int the starting eleven...
1) we could very well have enough depth, adding the same amount of youngsters but with extended role (ex more chances for Giovinco and DC) or even increase amount the amount youngsters in our team. But at this year, not even this was necessary, we could should just bring the same amount of players we brought, but for different positions, preferable the positions we suffer from starters issues!
2)Since we were able to acquire someone as good and expensive as Amauri, that speak by itself about the amount of options we had. The Italian market and the world market provide an unlimited source of players to choose from. The point is that we were never really interested on them because we had other priorities.
At this year, we have shown that we the potential to compete at a high level (maybe not the highest but much better than average), the Juventus jersey still holds some prestige with it, the presence of our remaining champions to give an added motive and we also had the CL temptation with our side. We had no excuses this time, our choices were ours...
A this year we have the same if not even better choices and almost no more excuses left, so i expect us to start showing some promise...
And i dont mean performance wise, i dont mind if we win nothing for the 2009-2010 season either, but i expect us to come a step closer to competitive squad, almost full with competitive players at every line and with some more addition in the next couple of year, a squad that would have some realistic chances to claim a title!
If we were adding two starters this year and two at this summer, we could have already been there, but its better late than never...
Hopefully we will fix our wings and fullbacks in two seasons from now!!
Dont get me wrong.
I am not expecting any miracles here and i am not expecting two 30 mil players/season either. What i am expecting to see is free forwards at Mellberg's quality as depth for our front line and some expensive starters at Amauri's quality at defense. With the same amount of youngsters as added depth. No need to sacrifice our depth number, or spending more money, these are not valid excuses any more, they were last year, but not anymore.
I admit that i would sacrifice the amount of subbers like Almiron, Tiago, Stendardo and Iaquinta for the half amount of better players and also for an extended role to our youngsters
And i am convinced that it wouldnt have any effect on our performances. Since their role was marginal anyway. But these are old news.
This year we brought 4 youngsters one free player to be used as sub and 2 expensive subbers.
I would prefer 4 youngsters, one free player to be used as sub and 2 expensive starters (Amauri eventually turned out to be a starter, but only by converting a quality starter into a sub, aka Treze, so the effect is the same in the long run, when Treze returns)
that would turn two of our current 3 low quality starters (like Marchionni, Moli and Grygera) into subs.
There is no less loss of players here, just an increase of quality starters and a decrease of quality subbers.
And Jack:, i cant know that,(if they will eventually decide to invest on our defense, rather than keep wasting our limited resources to stacked up forward line) but their behavior and choices of the past indicate that.
I hope that they will change that, i really do,
if they do, i promise to praise this board's decision and its effects during their season!

