Analysis of Summer Transfer requirements (24 Viewers)

[Raz]

My fear is that we should by a RM too and rely on Camo just as a back up or a rotation player, because his injuries are getting worse and worse.

 

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[Lo-Pan]

I agree defense need boosting, one CB should suffice. Zebina looked good yesterday, if fit, he can do a pretty sufficient job.

And I think we should not over react, we don't have the most solid defense but we're still the second best..if my records are correct.

Judging by last game, we should also replace Buffon as he looked awfully decent at best. He could have done better on the first two goals IMO.

What the hell does that mean...awfully decent...Those words don't fit together unless you are a posh pensioner from england.

 

[neurosis21]

My fear is that we should by a RM too and rely on Camo just as a back up or a rotation player, because his injuries are getting worse and worse.

that would be a lot wiser than buying a subpar understudy for camo who would add nothing to our team

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

we have 5 of those already

 

[Hust]

Amauri has not yet proved to me that he is in the same class as Del Piero or Trezeguet. yes he has scored goals, several ultra important ones in games we looked like losing or drawing...but he has hardly set the field on fire. I see Iaquinta as a far heavier threat to the opposition. Still, the service, from the flanks especially, has been fairly wretched for much of this season, which makes it harder to judge Amauri's contribution. He is neither out and out goal scorer, poacher, target man, creator...more a subtle mix of all of those areas, without truly excelling at any of them. Take Iaquinta for example...he is a powerhouse, who mixs strong heart with physical prowess. We paid too much for Amauri, at a time when we didn't need him. Perhaps with a fit Camo, he would be a greater success for us, maybe next season we will see, but so far...not by any measure does he rank as one of my favourite Juve forwards of any era...

Indeed, Tiago and Almiron can go. But I have this horrible feeling that wherever Tiago resurfaces, we will see him back to his best, back to the player the world knew, before he arrived in Turin...Still, the sale of those two will surely add funds to potential purchases for the Defence. If we can all see how weak we are in that area, Ranieri MUST be able to see this also. Gifting 3 goals to CHievo proved beyond any doubt that we need to invest in QUALITY not QUANTITY...

Speculate to accumulate, eh mate...If we finish in 2nd this season, perhaps the board will release a little extra $ than they had earmarked, under the assumption that we will be qualifying for the champions league every season now, and at least earning a few million$ in the group stage, and one or more knockout games...

Truly the picture is not as bleak as I sometimes feel the need to paint it. Its just that like many others, I find it hard to stop myself from imagining that a return to the force we once were, is just around the corner...

W/ Amauri: I love to imagine how many goals more he would have scored this year if he had the quality crossing our strikers need. Its all about the service and Camo has been the only one able to consistently give it but has been injured so much this season, and Gio can but has only started to play consistently. Our outside backs, well we know their contribution to the attack. It took all season for Molinaro to get a cross in that was converted to a goal. I think both Amauir and Iaquinta are similar in terms of strength, speed, and heading...both are powerhouses in my opinion.

I think the board will focus more on quality now that they got the quantity last season. They just need to be smart about off loading the players we have (Get the most out of the deal).

I agree, we are close to becoming stronger. We still gotta spend on a midfielder and a RB. Our older primavera are close to of age to make the step up I think, we should give them a shot (no loans). I don't really like loans TBH, I would prefer they stay and play with their team, learn from our champions rather than "gain experience". They get experience from being giving minutes in our games and learning from players (look at Inter with Santon/Balotelli). I hate to say that, even Man U is playing a 17 yr old after scoring plenty of goals in their youth, it took Giovinco till he is 22 to get some solid minutes?? I just think we need to show more trust in our youth, even Inter showed us how to do it this year.

 

[Tommy]

----------------------------Buffon--------------------------
-----------X---------X----------------Chiellini--------Molinaro/DC
---------------------Marchisio-----Sissoko----------------
------------------X(RCAM)--------------------------Gio(LCAM)------------
---------------------ADP------------Amauri---------------

We need 3 gud signings this summer. IMO we don need wingers. The fullbacks can come up act as partial wingers. The RCAm and LCAM can also give some wing support and moreover produce the creative spark from the midfield.
I don think silva/ribery move will materialise. Diego seems to be almost assured.he can fill the RCAM pos. Camo is gettin old an i don think he can be regular anymore.
Sell Tiago, Marchionni, knezevic, IQ/Trez, Grygera, Zanetti. IMO we hav enuff players for other positions. We need a top CB an keep mellberg and legro as subs. This also applies for RB as we have Zebina as a backup

 

[Esteban]

We need 3 gud signings this summer. IMO we don need wingers.

IMO, that's exactly what we need. If we are looking to continue playing two defensive/not solely attack minded mids and let the creativity come from the flanks, then we're already set except for two quality backups for Camo and Giovinco. Get rid of Salihamidzic and Marchionni, bring two of higher quality, like Schweinsteiger and Silva (just examples) and our midfield looks decent. Rebuilding the defense should be the big project for the summer mercato though.

 

[Fred]

If you have a good attacking fullback, i believe it could make up for playing someone like Marchionni on the flank.

 

[dogsarecute]

Yes. Marchionni had no support from Grygera at all.

 

[Hust]

Then you could say our strikers have no support for Marchionni at all as well...in terms of useful distribution. Either way you look at it, a great RB and good strikers will still suffer as a result of a horrible player like Marchionni unable to link the defense to the offense, we can't always just bypass an entire position.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yeah seriously, the defense of some players on this board is outrageous. Shows they haven't got a clue what the jobs of some players are.

 

[dogsarecute]

He managed a few goals and assists even with no help. Cristiano Ronaldo also played badly when he is on national team duty because of the same reason. I don't see why you don't view Marchionni's case as such.

 

[Bjerknes]

So essentially you're trying to compare Marchionni with Cristiano Ronaldo.

Okay, fine. Jintao is the next Mao due to the fact he approved of death van execution chambers to be distributed throughout your country.

Marchionni is the next CRonaldo, Jintao is the next Mao. Sounds great to me and I hope it happens.

This is how dumb you are.

 

[Rollie]

Please tell me that you didn't just compare Ronaldo and Marchionni, in any way, shape ,or form. There names should never be that close to each other... as much as I hate Ronaldo...

 

[Bjerknes]

Whoever the hell that is, some imbecile from China, certainly did. Just don't ever bother listening to that freak, unless you want a laugh. It always provides a laugh.

 

[Rollie]

Whoever the hell that is, some imbecile from China, certainly did. Just don't ever bother listening to that freak, unless you want a laugh. It always provides a laugh.

Yeah, I've noticed a few occasions where his logic is pretty incongruent with my own... and for the most part, I usually chalk that up as 'to each, his own' (for the most part)...

But seriously, one of these guys was European player of the year and the other was our WORST (starting) player for a large chunk of this season. They both typically play on the right and are right foot dominant... and that's where the comparison has to end...

 

[Hust]

He managed a few goals and assists even with no help. Cristiano Ronaldo also played badly when he is on national team duty because of the same reason. I don't see why you don't view Marchionni's case as such.

 

[Bjerknes]

Yeah, I've noticed a few occasions where his logic is pretty incongruent with my own... and for the most part, I usually chalk that up as 'to each, his own' (for the most part)...

But seriously, one of these guys was European player of the year and the other was our WORST (starting) player for a large chunk of this season. They both typically play on the right and are right foot dominant... and that's where the comparison has to end...

But as you can see, the reason why they defend these players is because Ranieri has taken heat for continuously fielding them. If you notice, they never have a problem with playing Molinaro despite having De Ceglie available, they never criticize Marchionni even despite Giovinco showing he can play the right flank, and they hide behind the faux premise that the other options are not able to add anything defensively. It's just not true. De Ceglie can play left-back in spite of the fact his last outing there was subpar, Gio can play right-wing and create as he did the Champions League, and Marchionni adds nothing defensively as it is, as seen in pretty much all matches we've witnessed. So what you have here is the Orwellian "doublespeak" in that they defend what Ranieri does even in spite of the fact other options are available. They are brainwashed.

They're also brainwashed in thinking we couldn't do any better this season just because we're fresh out of Serie B. Another incorrect inkling.

They're also brainwashed in that some of these players have improved enough to command regular positions, which is simply not true.

The REAL position we have not had any other options with is right-back, as Zebina has been injured all season long. But Grygera, as bad as he has been I admit, is cited as the worst player on the team. So while we have no other options for RB and have options for LB, MR and other positions, Grygera gets all the blame while others receive a free ride in their other slots.

This is essentially the definition of tyranny.

 

[Hust]

I will never understand why he didn't at least TRY Giovinco on the right...considering how bad Marchionni was playing, did he think that Gio could not top that? If so then sadly this is one of the worst cases of not knowing your players potential that I have ever seen.

 

[Bjerknes]

It's because of doublespeak. Some individuals are so caught up in the love for the friendly face Ranieri that they take what is correct and turn it into some negative, such as imbeciles such as Virtual claiming Giovinco wouldn't add anything late in a game, or dogsarecute claiming Marchionni's poor performances are due to Grygera. It's all doublespeak. Nonsensical, useless propaganda that doesn't make any sense, especially when Seba has proven he should play whatever the slot and De Ceg showing in previous performances he should be given more tries.

These people are just lovers of Big Brother (Ranieri).