Alvaro Morata (38 Viewers)

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GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,840
Appearances doesn't mean you play alot, altough i know Morata played a lot of minutes but it's also due to Mandzukic & Dybala's injuries. He is not first choice and he knows it.

His terrible start of the season get brought every time, let's not forget that Mandzukic didn't score for a couple of month or more in 2016, yet he was still first choice even when he didn't add much to the team when not scoring.
I feel like Morata knows he isn't first choice here, even when IMO he should've been our starter later in the season. I think in his mind if he's stays to be the first attacker of the bench, rather go to Madrid and be the same thing, he could back up all 3 players ( CR, Benz and Bale...) or go to a team where he will be the indusputed starter like Arsenal.
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KB824

Senior Member
Sep 16, 2003
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Appearances doesn't mean you play alot, altough i know Morata played a lot of minutes but it's also due to Mandzukic & Dybala's injuries. He is not first choice and he knows it.

His terrible start of the season get brought every time, let's not forget that Mandzukic didn't score for a couple of month or more in 2016, yet he was still first choice even when he didn't add much to the team when not scoring.
I feel like Morata knows he isn't first choice here, even when IMO he should've been our starter later in the season. I think in his mind if he's stays to be the first attacker of the bench, rather go to Madrid and be the same thing, he could back up all 3 players ( CR, Benz and Bale...) or go to a team where he will be the indusputed starter like Arsenal.
It wasn't just a terrible start of the season, man. It was 4 months. That is half of the year. And yes, considering the 2nd half of the season that he had the year prior, it was expected that someone as young as him could have built upon it, but he didn't.

Despite this though, he had the full support of the club, he received significant minutes ahead of Zaza, even when the latter was proving to be more useful.
He could have easily been surpassed by Zaza, as the numbers at the time were skewing towards Simone being more effective, but Allegri still showed faith in him

And if he wants to go back home to be an option off of the bench, that is his choice. However, one has to really wonder that unless they sell Benzema, just how much more playing time he would get there instead of staying here.

And going to Arsenal, well, it's Arsenal. He can't afford a 4 month slump as a starter there
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
It wasn't just a terrible start of the season, man. It was 4 months. That is half of the year. And yes, considering the 2nd half of the season that he had the year prior, it was expected that someone as young as him could have built upon it, but he didn't.

Despite this though, he had the full support of the club, he received significant minutes ahead of Zaza, even when the latter was proving to be more useful.
He could have easily been surpassed by Zaza, as the numbers at the time were skewing towards Simone being more effective, but Allegri still showed faith in him

And if he wants to go back home to be an option off of the bench, that is his choice. However, one has to really wonder that unless they sell Benzema, just how much more playing time he would get there instead of staying here.

And going to Arsenal, well, it's Arsenal. He can't afford a 4 month slump as a starter there

He's already won a lot of trophies playing for big clubs like Juventus and Real. I guess that maybe he wants to become a better player by playing regularly for a smaller team.

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Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
26,829
He's making a mistake if he leaves, but he's young, he'll learn. Too bad for juve although he isn't irreplaceable. Anyone who thinks he's a better option next to Dybala than mandzukic just doesn't understand how the game works. Mandzukic brings positional awareness, box positioning, and an ability to draw defenders away that morata just doesn't possess. He's a good young player with a significant upside, but just doesn't fit as well as mandzukic for this team.
I disagree, he fits us and brings something different to the table as opposed to Mandzukic. He is also much more efficient. It's just that Allegri (and you) value other things above that. It basically comes down to what you prefer.
 

CrimsonianKing

Count Mbangula
Jan 16, 2013
27,326
Morata appeared in 47 matches this year. How exactly is this him not getting minutes?

He is quite possibly my favorite player on this club, but let's not act as if he was a victim here. The kid went through nearly 4 months without scoring a goal.

As a striker.

Yet Allegri still gave him meaningful minutes, when all of the journalists, and 99% of the forum here wanted Zaza ahead of him in the pecking order.

If he leaves, then there is no way that this can be about playing time, or not being made to feel wanted. The kid was protected here,just like everyone else. Not once did anyone, from his teammates, to the coaches, to the board, threw him under the bus.
I was one of the few that still believed in him. @Hustini can attest to that.

Having said that your post is spot on.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,850
Bottom line is that it would take most likely 60M (considering opportunity cost) to keep him here. And he's not worth that. And he hasn't shown that he can play well with Dybala, who is our future.

Just thank Alvaro for what he's done, especially in the CL, and take the money back into the market. I'm sure Marotta can find another good striker.

In the end we're not losing him for free. You can find another striker as good as Morata but his name won't be Morata.
 

rakib567

Senior Member
Apr 27, 2013
10,087
i felt sad when he didnt celebrate when he scored against RM. he should have exploded in joy as that club didn't give him a chance. plus now they want him just to sell him on... he is brainwashed .
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,057
I understand where you are coming from, but I still feel we could and should have done more. A top club should retain its best players/performers, not sell off a couple every season. Cuadrado and Morata were key cogs in our European campaign this season.
It's been pointed out many times before that Morata was unatainable without Real inserting buy back clause. Wolfsburg offered more than us (+30m iirc) and their bid was rejected. Unless we were willing to pay significant fee (40-50m) to make it permanent, he was out of our reach that summer. Spending that much for 20 yo just a potential at that time, wouldn't have been wise and people had issues even when we payed 20m iirc.

Look at it this way, without Morata's clutch performances we wouldn't have been in the CL final last year. If someone made us this offer in the summer of 2014 I think every member would wholeheartedly accept. Tbh I hated the deal back then, I've liked Morata as a player though, but buy back clause didn't sit well with me. But looking at everything what has transpired afterwards I feel less bitter now.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I understand if he goes to the club of his hart, no sarcasm.

If he'd go to an english team, which we wrecked, he's taking the easy way out. Someone here said it best. At juve you fight for that edge, at arsenal you arent expected to win.

Its a mistake to go to real. Entire juve kept behind him when he went 4 months without a goal. GOOD LUCK IN MADRID, where ronaldo gets boo'd if he doesnt score hattricks every month

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He only brought shame.

10 million for being madrid's feeder club. How much do you get for covering up his bs 24/7?
You are the embodyment of frozen kebab it seems.


They gave us 10 mil and a CL final. They get back a player that doesnt suit them.

That Cl final did immense things for us, and is well worth the entire thing on its own
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,057
Appearances doesn't mean you play alot, altough i know Morata played a lot of minutes but it's also due to Mandzukic & Dybala's injuries. He is not first choice and he knows it.

His terrible start of the season get brought every time, let's not forget that Mandzukic didn't score for a couple of month or more in 2016, yet he was still first choice even when he didn't add much to the team when not scoring.
I feel like Morata knows he isn't first choice here, even when IMO he should've been our starter later in the season. I think in his mind if he's stays to be the first attacker of the bench, rather go to Madrid and be the same thing, he could back up all 3 players ( CR, Benz and Bale...) or go to a team where he will be the indusputed starter like Arsenal.
He wasn't a first choice? Well it's up to him to fight for his place in the team, we shouldn't just bent over and succumb to player's wishes. Especially since he went through 4 months without scoring. Would it be logical to you to bench either Dybala or Mandzukic at that time, when both have been scoring/assisting regularly and the team was gaining momentum, just so someone's feeling dont' get hurt? Ridiculous. I love Morata, one of my favorite players in the team and I think he'll have a great career, but meritocracy is the way to deal with these things and Allegri was spot on.

Btw I don't believe the lack of playing time was the reason he left (he played as much as Mandzukic), but he's madridista and we all knew that we won't stand a chance if they call him back.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Appearances doesn't mean you play alot, altough i know Morata played a lot of minutes but it's also due to Mandzukic & Dybala's injuries. He is not first choice and he knows it.

His terrible start of the season get brought every time, let's not forget that Mandzukic didn't score for a couple of month or more in 2016, yet he was still first choice even when he didn't add much to the team when not scoring.
I feel like Morata knows he isn't first choice here, even when IMO he should've been our starter later in the season. I think in his mind if he's stays to be the first attacker of the bench, rather go to Madrid and be the same thing, he could back up all 3 players ( CR, Benz and Bale...) or go to a team where he will be the indusputed starter like Arsenal.
And never win anything and be considered THE team of losers.

Or remain at juve and fight for a spot but win silverware consistantly and alot


hmmmm


Juve and madrid makes sense. I'm sure the fans will show their love when he doesnt score for a few months :)
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,850
He only brought shame.

10 million for being madrid's feeder club. How much do you get for covering up his bs 24/7?
If we are Madrid's feeder club then they should be the ones who are ashamed because we knocked them out of the CL using one of their own players.
 
Jul 2, 2006
19,444
You are the embodyment of frozen kebab it seems.

They gave us 10 mil and a CL final. They get back a player that doesnt suit them.

That Cl final did immense things for us, and is well worth the entire thing on its own
Would still be better than being the embodiment of steaming pile of shit.

Kebab isn't half as popular here as it is in where you live. Be more creadive. They can take their 10 million back if club is getting its honor back. He brought shame to club like none ever did, by accepting buy back clause, he accepted inferiority against Real Madrid.
 

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